[VewCoorkPow]

No sex for Ahnold for a few months.

[Bxbhtjnr]

This is gonna make for a great revenge movie!

[Kayacterype]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
This is gonna make for a great revenge movie! "Let's see. There's Arnold and the land developers on one side...and the Shrivers and environmentalists on the other...and me, right in the middle. That crazy bell ringer was right. A man in my position can make some real money. "

"Get your ass to Mars!"

[domeffire]

The cool thing about the state park and the Marine Corp station is that both are virtually undeveloped and together they make a truly vast ecological reserve stretching from the ocean/coastal plan through the foot hills and on the east side they abut the Cleveland National Forest which itself is connected to the Anza Berrigo Desert State Park. All together that's a huge swath of intact and contigious open space vital to local wild life.

There is still the problem that I5 and I15 cut through this land effectively cutting it into thirds but supposedly the state wants to make large under passes so large mammal populations (deer, mountain lions, etc) can easily pass into each of these sections. Ecologically this is one of the gems of this area.

[glagoliska]

You didn't pay attention to Arnold's special election propositions in 2004 and 2006, did you? Talk about partisan bullshit. Virtually all of them got voted down though because they were so completely partisan and because most of them went against Californian liberal values.

[maclaudser]

Eh?

[Keeriewof]

Lets see, a four lane highway is 30 yards wide? According to Oerdin this will take up 20% of the park area. So the park is a strip of land 150 yards wide?

Exaggeration Exaggeration that fails to achieve its aim

That being said, camp Penedelton has rural undeveloped areas for a reason. 1.) They don't tend like shooting artillery shells over or into populated areas. 2.) It is extrememly important to have undeveloped areas so you can learn how to operate in underdeveloped areas.

That being said, given the choices of the Marine base, the park, and the prospective development land the obvious choice is the devlopment land.

And btw almost every national park adjacent to populated areas have major transport routes through them. If done right the impact is negligable.

[Proodustommor]

Agree with Patroklos.

Don't see why the road can't go through the land they are trying to develop.

Oh, you might want to mention that in case of a FIRE that it would be handy to have another route open.

[NumDusthouh]

Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
If you break up Arnold's last name, you get Schwarz and negger. Does his name literally mean "Black Nig*er" in German? Its is separated differently:
Schwarzen and Egger,
with the first part meaning black (as you mentioned)
and the second part (Egger) being a surname that is very common in Austria and the southern parts of germany.
(another Variation of the Egger-Name would be Niederegger (Lower Egger) who are famous for the production of chocolate)

Maybe Arnolds branch of the Egger family lived somewhere in the deep forest (where it is black) and therefore were called the black eggers which finally evolved into Schwarzenegger

[spaxiaroorbes]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST


Its is separated differently:
Schwarzen and Egger,
with the first part meaning black (as you mentioned)
and the second part (Egger) being a surname that is very common in Austria and the southern parts of germany.
(another Variation of the Egger-Name would be Niederegger (Lower Egger) who are famous for the production of chocolate)

Maybe Arnolds branch of the Egger family lived somewhere in the deep forest (where it is black) and therefore were called the black eggers which finally evolved into Schwarzenegger Ah, that makes much more sense. I'm not sure "negger" is even a term of disparagement in German but it is in the Dutch language.

[Ganoshenko]

No, with Clint Eastwood, duh.

[AntonayPina]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Lets see, a four lane highway is 30 yards wide? According to Oerdin this will take up 20% of the park area. So the park is a strip of land 150 yards wide?

Exaggeration Exaggeration that fails to achieve its aim It might be a little bit of an exaggeration but not much. Type in "San Onofre State Beach" and notice how the state park is long and thin going from the coast northeast; basically it is the area west of west of Camp Pendleton and south of the Orage County-San Diego County line.

The land to be developed is north of Camp Pendleton and south of the Ortega highway (a windy two lane road built in the 1920's which really isn't suitable as the only transit route for thousands of new homes (maybe tens of thousands). It's a sticky situation looking at the map. My personal opionion is **** the developers and leave the land rural.

[fiettariaps]

Nice map!

Technically speaking San Juan Capastron doesn't have smog, that's north in LA. Oh, and there is no heavy metals in the water and the area to be developed is north of what you have creatively labeled "McMansionville".

I'm sure developers want to turn that open space into McMansions too though.

[gorbasevhuynani]

It's out there...

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...cal&id=4474687

Several thousand gallons of radioactive water have leaked out of a retired reactor at the San Onofre nuclear power plant over an unknown period of time. Officials say there is no threat to public safety.

...

Lund said that there is little chance the tritium under the San Onofre plant could have contaminated the city's well. "It's two miles away and uphill from the plant. The plant is at sea level, and water doesn't run uphill," he said.

[markbila]

Oh, SMUG!

Ok, I agree that Orange County is filled with smug.

[marcusdexz]

That's a retarded edit.