[johnbeller]

[mymnduccete]

this is all a bunch of crap, playing on the popular fear that all NSA has time for is listen in on people having phone-sex.

you have hundreds of sleeper cells or of potential recruits in your country.

making tracking them difficult, or laying blame on the phone companies for helping the government track them, is stupid.

it's not that civil liberties can't potencially be hurt.
they can - and it should be supervised.

but making bush a fascist out of it is really silly.

[joulseenjoync]

The bigger story is that the senate was completely fine with giving Bush exactly what he wanted. He trashes Bush so much, but the Dems in the senate are just like "here you go..."

The Democrats are just cavemen. They cave over and over again.

Just like how they made a huge deal with Mukasey...they talked pretty big and when he spit in their faces they just confirmed him anyway.

They talk and talk but don't do anything about it. It makes the scandals seem like no big deal to most people. Especially when almost all of the senate Democrats that did vote against that bill were paid by the lawyers that want to sue the telecoms.

[Shemker394]

I agree the current Senate leadership, and all to often the House too, is so spineless it is unbelievable.

[ClaudeMarkus]

Olbermann

[Voliscietle]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I agree the current Senate leadership, and all to often the House too, is so spineless it is unbelievable. Spineless? You seem to be under the assumption that the Democrats didn't want to support this but were scared, as opposed to wanting to support it and succeeded in passing it over the objections of their voters. The only substantive difference between the GOP and the Democrats is the latter has weak support for abortion rights while the GOP has weak opposition to abortion rights.

Dude, standing up to 200 million pissed off Americans takes some serious balls.

[Vomazoono]

Olbermann is the type of America we should all aspire to be.

[MYMcvBgl]

because he is the4 President, and majority of Americans are brainwashed to trust his every word, no matter what it is... that's why

[JRixlcvF]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No we don't. YES, you do.

As for potential recruits, there's three hundred million potential communists too, so take that for what it's worth and stick it up your police state. In this country, it is still illegal to spy on people because of what they might do, for now. No one is spying on people who might do something.

But once a person living in the US contacts a known foreign enemy, he should be good to track, to decide whether he's dangerous. that requires tracking him inside the US.

also, since you don't always know when someone might do something, using pattern recognition and statistics is actually a valid tool for first round of suspects, which should be investigated upon.

you guys seriously under-appreciate the threat.