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Originally posted by Edan
Maybe they're referring to his national poll numbers, which are really low? Since this is the New Hampshire primary it seems like the poll numbers in New Hampshire are the most important. Especially since most of the candidates poll well in certain regions but not well nationally. |
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Poll: Rest of U.S. tired of Iowa, N.H. prominence
02:41 PM CST on Tuesday, January 1, 2008 Associated Press CONCORD, N.H. — All eyes may be on Iowa and New Hampshire, but many of them are rolling. Despite efforts to evict the two states from the front of the presidential calendar, both managed to hang on for another election cycle that culminates with the Iowa caucuses on Thursday and the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 8. As a year of media attention reaches its crescendo, voters in other states are saying enough is enough. |
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Originally posted by Edan
Iowa ![]() New Hampshire ![]() That being said, it doesn't always have to be the same two small states up front, although Iowa and NH are both swing states, which makes them especially interesting. And back on topic: I gotta say, this is the kind of move that will only add fuel to a 3rd-party run by Paul, which should be the last thing the GOP would want. So I heartily approve. ![]() |
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Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Yep. 3rd party candidates with a hard-core following of zealots never effect the outcome of an election. But don't take my word for it; just ask President Gore. You give Nader too much credit in engineering Gore's defeat. You forget to factor in Gore himself. Looking at his national numbers and his hypocrisy, I'll stick with my contention that Oerdin should share. |
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
You give Nader too much credit in engineering Gore's defeat. You forget to factor in Gore himself. Gore was a crap candidate, but won the national vote, and by all subsequent measures would have won the Florida recount. If it hadn't been for Nader, Florida never would have been in question to begin with. But that's old news. Looking at his national numbers and his hypocrisy, I'll stick with my contention that Oerdin should share. His national numbers are at 3% of likely GOP primary voters. Let's say he retains half of that in a general election as a 3rd-party candidate. Given the last 2 elections -- one that was decided by 500 votes, the other of which provided the narrowest re-election victory of a president, ever -- I can't imagine the GOP wants to risk seeing 1-1.5 points siphoned off by Paul. |
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Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
That could be but this is a STATE debate, using National polling numbers is obscene, the whole point of the early primary states is to test the candidates in a small isolated contest ware people without national recognition can prove themselves. Wouldn't that make him the Banana option?? exactly |
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Nader cost Gore Florida. Hands down, no debate about it. I'll debate. Nadar did well b/c the Dems were pathetic. Why does Nadar take the blame for a Dem Party that dems couldn't bring themselves to vote for? Yes Nadar took "democratic" votes but only b/c the Democrats lost them. Their fault not his. |
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