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Old 08-29-2007, 08:03 PM   #1
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Default Musharraf to step down as army chief
I'll believe it when he says it himself. Actually maybe not even then.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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She needs someone to control the army, which has been a big player in pakistani politics even under nominally civilian regimes. This looks to me like a substantial improvement. It makes everything constitutional, and means a nominal civilian as President, and a more genuinely independent PM (ie one with an independent constituency from Musharaff)

Of course others can still run against him for president, but Bhutto's party will support him.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:19 PM   #3
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This looks to me like a substantial improvement. Bhutto threw Musharraf a life vest. She didn't need to.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:29 PM   #4
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The military has become a widely unpopular force. The situation is very different from what it was like several years ago. No, I don't think that another military coup is all that viable.

Bhutto has articulated her reasons for doing this, but the reason you're citing isn't one of them from what I've read.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:38 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Ramo
The military has become a widely unpopular force. The situation is very different from what it was like several years ago. No, I don't think that another military coup is all that viable.

Bhutto has articulated her reasons for doing this, but the reason you're citing isn't one of them from what I've read. since the military will still be around, she may have chosen not to articulate some things.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:41 PM   #6
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here is what she said on the Lehrer show:


"So we're not trying to bail out a military dictator by saying we will come there on your terms. What we are seeking is a compromise that could help bring about a stable, democratic, civilian order in Pakistan. And it's for the people of Pakistan then to vote in the party or the leaders they would like to see lead them."
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:48 PM   #7
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She did if she wanted back in. True in the short term, anyways (since Musharraf can grease the wheels).
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:10 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Ramo


Like I was saying, I don't think that was the alternative. and as I hope I made clear, but may not have, I was not comparing the current situation to a what if, whose certainy we can argue endlessly, but to the situation the day before.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:33 PM   #9
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Also, Sharif won't be allowed back, and Benazir will only be allowed back after teh elections

Sharif won't be allowed to return to Pak: Musharraf

Refusing to abide by the recent Supreme Court judgement, President Pervez Musharraf has said that exiled former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif would not be allowed to return to Pakistan to take part in the general elections slated for later this year.

"The government will neither allow the Sharif brothers to come back nor would they be given a free hand if they chose to return. If Nawaz Sharif is not honouring his 'exile' deal, the government will put him behind bars or send him back to Saudi Arabia," The News quoted Musharraf as saying in Islamabad.

Considering petitions filed by the deposed Premier and his brother Shahbaz Sharif, the apex court had ruled on Thursday that they were free to return to the Islamic nation after seven years in "forced" exile.

Musharraf on Saturday held an emergency meeting of the ruling party MPs at the Presidency in Islamabad amid reports that Sharif might return home possibly by next month to lead Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz's campaign in the general polls in Pakistan.

The President told the elected representatives that the government would raise the issue of Sharif brothers' return in violation of the agreement with Saudi Arabia. "The Sharifs are bound to abide by the 'exile' agreement and the Saudi government will be approached in this connection." Sharif, who was ousted in a military coup in 1999, has denied entering into any deal with the government, which required his family members to stay out of the country for at least ten years. But, the government insists that he had signed the 'exile' pact in exchange for a presidential pardon.

However, Musharraf told the ruling party heavyweights that self-exiled former Premier Benazir would only be allowed to return to the country after general elections. "There's no possibility of her return before the polls."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...4506&Headline='Sharif+won't+be+allowed+to+return+to+Pak'
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:40 PM   #10
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Originally posted by Wezil


I heard her interviewed on our national radio a couple weeks ago and was troubled by her evasiveness in answering questions. It appeared she and Musharraf had come to an arrangement of sorts but she would not reveal what that arrangement was...

No we see (from the latest article posted) she comes back but her rivals don't... Sounds like there isnt a deal.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:21 PM   #11
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Also, Sharif won't be allowed back, and Benazir will only be allowed back after teh elections The article is dated the 26th. I don't see anything about this on teh Beeb... In fact, Sharif has just announced that he's going back on 9/10.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:28 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Ramo


The article is dated the 26th. But still after teh SC judgment allowing him back.
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