[MzTT]

California is the most beautiful state in our nation. You've got the best beaches, incredible mountain ranges, the desert, rainforests, all in one state....and gold, there's still gold in dem dar hills.

That is exactly the point, it has all those things and you still couldn't pay me to live there.

I don't see why it should go to hell, or be given up.

There were a lot of people who said the same about Rhodesia and South Africa, now they have left, or there daughters are raped and their sons killed by blacks. I'm sure there are people who said the same thing about the Titanic "why abandon this ship it's a magnificently beautiful vessel" but sometimes you have to know when to fold em.

IMO you californians are looking at leaving the wrong way, you look at it as giving up on what was once a great thing, but I look at it as letting nature take it's course. Let the bastard implode let them go bankrupt and raise taxes to 99%, just leave and maybe when we are older we can buy up half the state for a song when everything implodes, in the mean time you can be around MUCH better quality people. What is going on in california can't be argued with it's like standing on the beach with a hurricane bearing down on you and trying to use your own lungs to blow it out to sea, it ain't gonna happen, just leave while you can and come back once the devastation is over.