[pesty4077]

It just makes no sense.

Don't tell us, why don't you think we live there?

[TaliaJack]

Melbourne's median house price rose 1.6 per cent to $529,077 over the first three months of 2012, according to Australian Property Monitors' March-quarter house price report.

http://canberratimes.domain.com.au/r...428-1xrck.html


and all you get for that (as opposed to California) is tram tracks ,ugly roads,buildings ect.................i hate cities

[juliannamed]

What's Vancouver's number? 800k-1 mil?

[MzTT]

California is the most beautiful state in our nation. You've got the best beaches, incredible mountain ranges, the desert, rainforests, all in one state....and gold, there's still gold in dem dar hills.

That is exactly the point, it has all those things and you still couldn't pay me to live there.

I don't see why it should go to hell, or be given up.

There were a lot of people who said the same about Rhodesia and South Africa, now they have left, or there daughters are raped and their sons killed by blacks. I'm sure there are people who said the same thing about the Titanic "why abandon this ship it's a magnificently beautiful vessel" but sometimes you have to know when to fold em.

IMO you californians are looking at leaving the wrong way, you look at it as giving up on what was once a great thing, but I look at it as letting nature take it's course. Let the bastard implode let them go bankrupt and raise taxes to 99%, just leave and maybe when we are older we can buy up half the state for a song when everything implodes, in the mean time you can be around MUCH better quality people. What is going on in california can't be argued with it's like standing on the beach with a hurricane bearing down on you and trying to use your own lungs to blow it out to sea, it ain't gonna happen, just leave while you can and come back once the devastation is over.

[Kalobbis]

In the mid 70s I did some backpacking on the Pacific Crest trail. Near Truckee I camped by a lake next to a guy who had lost his job and had moved his wife and kids to a tent. He did odd jobs during the day.

Californians couldn't afford it even then.

[OlegSan]

That is exactly the point, it has all those things and you still couldn't pay me to live there.




There were a lot of people who said the same about Rhodesia and South Africa, now they have left, or there daughters are raped and their sons killed by blacks. I'm sure there are people who said the same thing about the Titanic "why abandon this ship it's a magnificently beautiful vessel" but sometimes you have to know when to fold em.

IMO you californians are looking at leaving the wrong way, you look at it as giving up on what was once a great thing, but I look at it as letting nature take it's course. Let the bastard implode let them go bankrupt and raise taxes to 99%, just leave and maybe when we are older we can buy up half the state for a song when everything implodes, in the mean time you can be around MUCH better quality people. What is going on in california can't be argued with it's like standing on the beach with a hurricane bearing down on you and trying to use your own lungs to blow it out to sea, it ain't gonna happen, just leave while you can and come back once the devastation is over.

Very well said, sadly your one paragraph is not going to change their life of indoctrination. I don't spend much time encouraging them to leave because the next thing you know you have a snide liberal with an entitlement attitude as a neighbor.

[zabiqapara]

My parents, brother, sister, everyone I know is here... I can't leave.

[Kalobbis]

My parents, brother, sister, everyone I know is here... I can't leave.

Then find somewhere else to be without leaving.

[Thigmaswams]

Purchased my home in 1996 for $250K, current value $650K current loan amount $180K, I really should sell and move up to Fraiser Park. I could get a place with an acre for about $150K and have $320K in my pocket which I could use to start a business or invest in whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, my motivation level is close to zero these days.

[zabiqapara]

Purchased my home in 1996 for $250K, current value $650K current loan amount $180K, I really should sell and move up to Fraiser Park. I could get a place with an acre for about $150K and have $320K in my pocket which I could use to start a business or invest in whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, my motivation level is close to zero these days.

I owe less than 90 on mine... keeping my eyes focused on that next one... after the big show...

[Meerenuch]

you can't move over one state? I mean living in phoenix only puts you like 3-4 hours from so cal...

I understand not leaving family, I left my first professional job to get closer to family...still don't live in the same state, but much closer. 2 hrs by car now instead of 25.

but there comes a point...

[MzTT]

Purchased my home in 1996 for $250K, current value $650K current loan amount $180K, I really should sell and move up to Fraiser Park. I could get a place with an acre for about $150K and have $320K in my pocket which I could use to start a business or invest in whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, my motivation level is close to zero these days.

I say this to myself as much as I say it to you, but you have to strike while the iron is hot motivation or not.

[Roneyslelry]

Purchased my home in 1996 for $250K, current value $650K current loan amount $180K, I really should sell and move up to Fraiser Park. I could get a place with an acre for about $150K and have $320K in my pocket which I could use to start a business or invest in whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, my motivation level is close to zero these days.

Who the hell would you sell to?

I agree with solid. It makes no sense. The median home is $650k yet the median income is just over $54k a year.



What that tells me is you probably have a bunch of baby boomers selling houses back and forth to each other and po' folks scraping together the 3% needed for a FHA loan. Totally unsustainable on all fronts.

I understand those living there wanting to rationalize all this away. I have relatives in CA and they too are deep in denial.

[Impariclainna]

[QUOTE=LuckyStrike;542716]That is exactly the point, it has all those things and you still couldn't pay me to live there.

Well I am a Califorina through and through wouldn't move unless you paid me a BUNDLE.

If you look out my window and see what I see I bet you'd stay too.

[ChuttyAmult]

[QUOTE=zap;542746]

That is exactly the point, it has all those things and you still couldn't pay me to live there.

Well I am a Califorina through and through wouldn't move unless you paid me a BUNDLE.

If you look out my window and see what I see I bet you'd stay too.

having lived in norcal in several locations, it truly is a beautiful wonderment of nature with a diversity unequaled

[Mehntswx]

My parents bought their tract home in 1970 , they paid $ 20,000, at the top of the market homes around them were going for $350,000 to $400,000 , POP the bubble bust and it is worth 180,000 on the high-side, I wouldn't pay anymore then 150,000.

[k1ePRlda]

I'm on the three year plan to get out of here. My small business will have been taxed to death by then and I'm moving one state up or over. I could take the the job offers and go corporate but that's not my style and I wouldn't last very long eventhough I'd be making bank. By that time it would be time for something different in my life anyway.

Meanwhile, a mile from my office, houses are being framed again. On slabs that have sat for four years. Freeway close too; like 30 seconds close. $250-400K, stacked on top of each other.

[Viafdrear]

Purchased my home in 1996 for $250K, current value $650K current loan amount $180K, I really should sell and move up to Fraiser Park. I could get a place with an acre for about $150K and have $320K in my pocket which I could use to start a business or invest in whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, my motivation level is close to zero these days.

You need to sell and GTFO of California while prices are still high. Take your profits. The whole state is up shit creek financially and the only thing the politicians can think of doing is to raise taxes even more. Once the state goes bankrupt it will be too late. House prices will plummet.

[MzTT]

You guys act like Cali is the ONLY place with scenic views, sure it has the most diverse scenic views, but you can buy a house in the rockies and one on the water outside of cali for the same price as one in cali.

I honestly hope you don't regret staying, for your sake, and your childrens and again I live in Florida, while it isn't the workers paradise that CA is, it is still very nearly overrun with mestizos.

[riverakathy]

Absolute fu*king madness im reading in this thread.

I was born and raised in Southern California. Also lived in the bay area and central valley for 6 years. Half Moon Bay and Manteca.

Sold my last house in So Cal in 2006 for double what i paid for it in 2002. Moved to KY and have not looked back.

If you are a Gimmer and still living in Cali you are a fu*king nut case times two in my opinion.

I have not nor will I ever miss that smog infested , gang infested , traffic hell , tax hell ,piece of shit, shit bag mother fu*ker. Not even close.

You are fuc*ing surrounded by 100s of thousands of gangbangers. Your state income tax is 9 percent. Your sales tax is 10 percent. The smog nazis own your ass. The gun laws are insane.

Yes the western mountains and deserts are incredible,so what. America is large ,and offers much much more beyond the Sierras and the Mojave.

I can buy any damn firearm I want and walk out with it instantly. I have long tube headers and no cats on both my Mustangs.I can and have open carried with my loaded 380 and 9 mm on my hip. In and out of retail stores as well as around town. Gas is at least 20 percent less.

I could go on and on and on and on.

Califonia is a rotted out shell of a shithole.

MW