[MediconStop]

I think it's 'You vs TPTB' The corporations are their agents. So are the banks and the government and the media. TPTB own all our institutions. The people who run them are psycho-whores.

Hatha




http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the...ht-paradigm-is
The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations


Every generation or so, a major secular shift takes place that shakes up the existing paradigm. It happens in industry, finance, literature, sports, manufacturing, technology, entertainment, travel, communication, etc.

I would like to discuss the paradigm shift that is occurring in politics.

For a long time, American politics has been defined by a Left/Right dynamic. It was Liberals versus Conservatives on a variety of issues. Pro-Life versus Pro-Choice, Tax Cuts vs. More Spending, Pro-War vs Peaceniks, Environmental Protections vs. Economic Growth, Pro-Union vs. Union-Free, Gay Marriage vs. Family Values, School Choice vs. Public Schools, Regulation vs. Free Markets.

The new dynamic, however, has moved past the old Left Right paradigm. We now live in an era defined by increasing Corporate influence and authority over the individual. These two “interest groups” – I can barely suppress snorting derisively over that phrase – have been on a headlong collision course for decades, which came to a head with the financial collapse and bailouts. Where there is massive concentrations of wealth and influence, there will be abuse of power. The Individual has been supplanted in the political process nearly entirely by corporate money, legislative influence, campaign contributions, even free speech rights.

This may not be a brilliant insight, but it is surely an overlooked one. It is now an Individual vs. Corporate debate – and the Humans are losing.

Consider:

• Many of the regulations that govern energy and banking sector were written by Corporations;

• The biggest influence on legislative votes is often Corporate Lobbying;

• Corporate ability to extend copyright far beyond what original protections amounts to a taking of public works for private corporate usage;

• PAC and campaign finance by Corporations has supplanted individual donations to elections;

• The individuals’ right to seek redress in court has been under attack for decades, limiting their options.

• DRM and content protection undercuts the individual’s ability to use purchased content as they see fit;

• Patent protections are continually weakened. Deep pocketed corporations can usurp inventions almost at will;

• The Supreme Court has ruled that Corporations have Free Speech rights equivalent to people; (So much for original intent!)

None of these are Democrat/Republican conflicts, but rather, are corporate vs. individual issues.

For those of you who are stuck in the old Left/Right debate, you are missing the bigger picture. Consider this about the Bailouts: It was a right-winger who bailed out all of the big banks, Fannie Mae, and AIG in the first place; then his left winger successor continued to pour more money into the fire pit.

What difference did the Left/Right dynamic make? Almost none whatsoever.

How about government spending? The past two presidents are regarded as representative of the Left Right paradigm – yet they each spent excessively, sponsored unfunded tax cuts, plowed money into military adventures and ran enormous deficits. Does Left Right really make a difference when it comes to deficits and fiscal responsibility? (Apparently not).

What does it mean when we can no longer distinguish between the actions of the left and the right? If that dynamic no longer accurately distinguishes what occurs, why are so many of our policy debates framed in Left/Right terms?

In many ways, American society is increasingly less married to this dynamic: Party Affiliation continues to fall, approval of Congress is at record lows, and voter participation hovers at very low rates.

There is some pushback already taking place against the concentration of corporate power: Mainstream corporate media has been increasingly replaced with user created content – YouTube and Blogs are increasingly important to news consumers (especially younger users). Independent voters are an increasingly larger share of the US electorate. And I suspect that much of the pushback against the Elizabeth Warren’s concept of a Financial Consumer Protection Agency plays directly into this Corporate vs. Individual fight.

But the battle lines between the two groups have barely been drawn. I expect this fight will define American politics over the next decade.

Keynes vs Hayek? Friedman vs Krugman? Those are the wrong intellectual debates. Its you vs. Tony Hayward, BP CEO, You vs. Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman Sachs CEO. And you are losing . . .

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This short commentary was conceived not to be an exhaustive research, but rather, to stimulate debate. There are many more examples and discussions we can have about this, and I hope readers do so in comments.

But my bottom line is this: If you see the world in terms of Left & Right, you really aren’t seeing the world at all . . .

[jokiruss]

This is the primary concept that I try to impress upon people: Understand that partisan politics is a misdirection. If you think in terms of D-versus-R, or L-versus-R, then you're being fooled, and you should wake the hell up.

This is a very important succinct essay, and I will be passing it along to my friends and associates.

[zawhmqswly]

Evil corporations. Yet you choose to work for them. You collect their coupons (aka Federal Reserve Notes). You pretend that you are one (accepting limited liability rather than taking full responsibility). You cannot go to court without being represented (even if you must represent yourself) just like a corporation.

The main enemy to a constitutional republic can be clearly seen in the reflection you see in the mirror.

The rule of law is: Disparata non debent jungi. Unequal things ought not to be joined.

[Zs3ZASpA]

Evil corporations. Yet you choose to work for them. You collect their coupons (aka Federal Reserve Notes). You pretend that you are one (accepting limited liability rather than taking full responsibility). You cannot go to court without being represented (even if you must represent yourself) just like a corporation.

The main enemy to a constitutional republic can be clearly seen in the reflection you see in the mirror.

The rule of law is: Disparata non debent jungi. Unequal things ought not to be joined.

I'd love to come take a real life look into how you conduct your everyday life. You seem to dictate your assertions from ahigh to the rest of us ignorant masses, you certainly can talk the talk but walking the walk is a horse of a different color. Maybe you were born with a silver spoon and were able to cash out of the system with enough accrued knowledge? IDK...but you sure are good at slingin shit.

[gymnAnemoe]

I'd love to come take a real life look into how you conduct your everyday life. You seem to dictate your assertions from ahigh to the rest of us ignorant masses, you certainly can talk the talk but walking the walk is a horse of a different color. Maybe you were born with a silver spoon and were able to cash out of the system with enough accrued knowledge? IDK...but you sure are good at slingin shit.

I think of his response as something Hypertiger would say. It's supposed to piss you off.

[jokiruss]

Evil corporations. Yet you choose to work for them. You collect their coupons (aka Federal Reserve Notes). You pretend that you are one (accepting limited liability rather than taking full responsibility). You cannot go to court without being represented (even if you must represent yourself) just like a corporation.

The main enemy to a constitutional republic can be clearly seen in the reflection you see in the mirror.

The rule of law is: Disparata non debent jungi. Unequal things ought not to be joined.

I'm not coming from a point of "evil" corporations. To me, it's more a question of understanding. Be aware of the game, and the world that you live in, even if you can't change it, or don't even want to change it. I'm all about awareness.

[MediconStop]

The bigest problem with corporations is that they assume they own everything, including their employees, which they call 'human resources'. They have stepped into the shoes of the Plantation owners. They collude with each other to keep wages low and prices high. They have turned the entire marketplace into a gigantic 'company store'. And with their 'media' they have convinced most of us that we are 'free'. SirGonzo 420 quoted Goethe in another thread: None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

People however are waking up. What's waking them up are the lies the corporations tell them-which a growing number of people can see and react to,


Hatha

[zawhmqswly]

you sure are good at slingin shit.

Thank you. I practice daily. My complaints are not directed at corporations but rather at people who act like corporations.

Corporations, you see, don't exist. Why expend energy railing at an entity that can easily be dissolved with a writ of quo warranto?

[zawhmqswly]

It's supposed to piss you off.

I prefer to believe it is to make you think.

[zawhmqswly]

The bigest problem with corporations is that they assume they own everything

If you sit on a donkey and it moves then you own it. If you lead a camel by its reins and it moves then you own it. These are laws of ownership. There is not a single corporation that is capable of the acts required.

Under U.S. law livery of seisin is required for ownership of a property. Livery of seisin is the actual act of taking possession. How many corporations are capable of this act?

"Possession, it is said, is the position of the foot" is a maxim of law. How many corporations have you seen that have a foot?

[2puO4Rhf]

I'd love to come take a real life look into how you conduct your everyday life. You seem to dictate your assertions from ahigh to the rest of us ignorant masses, you certainly can talk the talk but walking the walk is a horse of a different color. Maybe you were born with a silver spoon and were able to cash out of the system with enough accrued knowledge? IDK...but you sure are good at slingin shit.

LT go to George Gordon.com I believe and look in the audio library for the common law series for a start.

[gymnAnemoe]

I prefer to believe it is to make you think.

Sorry, that was implied (at least in my head). I should have said "to piss you off and make you think."

[id2008]

The bigest problem with corporations is that they assume they own everything, including their employees, which they call 'human resources'.

Hatha

American corporations are basically a Codification of the Talmud, written into American corporate law.

"Privatize the Profits, Socialize the Costs" - this slogan from Corporate America comes straight from the Talmud.

the corporate talk about being a "good community citizen" is just PR/ marketing - and another chance to exert control.


also i think the "Plantation" metaphor is real accurate.

[MediconStop]

"Possession, it is said, is the position of the foot" is a maxim of law. How many corporations have you seen that have a foot?

This is legal fiction. Corporations are 'juristic persons' much like the poster at GIM who everybody except his sockpuppets despises. I would presume a juristic person is deemed in law to be like any other natural person--i. e. that they would have all the same appendages that ordinary people have, including feet. They certainly have speech--because the courts recognize that they have freedom of speech--meaning they can lie with impunity. If they have speech, it is consistent to deem that they have feet, maybe even sexual organs with which to rape people--or perhaps they do that by buying congresspeople to make laws that favor them and disadvantage all the real people.

I have to laugh palani every time you bring up a legalism because I don't know if you are doing it tongue in cheek, or if you take it seriously. I just finished reading Eustace Mullins's The Rape of Justice where he reduces our Legal System to a tragic laughingstock. The tragedy is that the 'system' can strip you of everything you 'own' and all of your rights legally, despite the Constitution and all the propaganda about how we are the land of the free and the home of the brave. Anyone who has had any contact with the legal system should be disabused of the notion that it has anything to do with justice. There is a thread here about a woman who was found dead, hanging at the end of a nylon rope with her hands and feet bound, and the police called it an accident because the prime suspect is a wealthy connected Jewish businessman. Someone pointed out in that thread that we have the best justice money can buy. Most of the justice system is bought by corporations, and the remainder is administered by freemasons who rule in favor of their fellow secret organization members, identifying them by gestures. There's a lot going on in the 'justice system' that isn't written or spoken, but affects the outcome dramatically. Only one thing is guaranteed: If you sue a big corporation, the facts don't matter--you will lose. Because you are a slave, not an owner.


Hatha

[zawhmqswly]

Corporations are 'juristic persons'

All person(s) are fictions. A person is a word, an action or representation. I think of them as a container of rights and duties. I have never met a person although I have seen one represented in a mirror.

I would presume a juristic person is deemed in law to be like any other natural person--... They certainly have speech-

The speech comes from agents, aka representation.

I have to laugh palani every time you bring up a legalism because I don't know if you are doing it tongue in cheek, or if you take it seriously.

To the extent I am associated with a person the list of rights that are contained number over 1,000. Many of these rights are expressed as Roman maxims of law, short little expressions that have existed as basic truths for several thousands of years. As truth is hard to uncover these days then these little gems are priceless.

The tragedy is that the 'system' can strip you of everything you 'own' and all of your rights legally, despite the Constitution and all the propaganda about how we are the land of the free and the home of the brave.

You may be stripped of nothing you own. Maybe you are confusing what you believe you own with what you actually own? What have you created lately that has been stolen from you?

[Pelefaifs]

Here is how i see it:

Corporations = Tool
Money = Tool
Politics = Tool
Religion = Tool


These are only Tools that are used to enslave you, but they are not the Enslaver.

[MediconStop]

Thank you palani for that truly concise deconstruction. You've demonstrated precisely what I believe about legalese. I still am not sure whether this is tongue-in-cheek (sarcasm) or if you are serious.

Hatha

[Zoxeeoy]

If you listen to Alfred Adask and Dennis Craig Bynum, you will find the source of palani's knowledge.

http://adask.wordpress.com/category/dennis-craig/

The last show was very enlightening (to me) as to how we have been deceived.
http://dgscoins.americanvoiceradio.c...ie-wed-avr.mp3
this link is only good for a week and then it will be overwritten with a new show.

[zawhmqswly]

I still am not sure whether this is tongue-in-cheek (sarcasm) or if you are serious.

Hatha

I find I can agree with your statement.

[ToifvT5S]

Bump for support for the new LRP thread.