[heltduell]

Like leading a horse to something that seems like water and telling them they drank.

[Biradallo]

Like leading a horse to something that seems like water and telling them they drank.

Fact is this dosnt explain the calendar very much at all and the ONLY way to grasp it is to have it and attempt to follow it on a daily basis and in this way it is a personal experience.

[baritkello]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar
A cyclical interpretation is also noted in Maya creation accounts, in which the present world and the humans in it were preceded by other worlds (one to five others, depending on the tradition) which were fashioned in various forms by the gods, but subsequently destroyed. The present world also had a tenuous existence, requiring the supplication and offerings of periodic sacrifice to maintain the balance of continuing existence. Similar themes are found in the creation accounts of other Mesoamerican societies Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

[Beedcardabeme]

wow! the 3 hr talk was great. The guy died shortly after in 2005. I guess he was focused on making that video because he knew he was terminally ill?

[swoluelvede]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar


Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

People at the Jew N, your new avatar are working on these problems,
thanks for the gem of a post, I was 100 % right about you, I put the fire
to your feet and you became more blatant, what's next posting about Lucifer,
you are totally anti Western, Pro Occult poster, "theosophist" MO, same shit as goldie,
maybe you can go apply for a job with the Lucifer Trust on how to fuck
with everyone, same way you are doing on these forums but on a bigger
scale. You troll the gim masonic round thread, you openly call yourself
a "mason", what more do people need to hear from you ? You can be
the new new age guru and give us our religion and beliefs, like I said,
the Jew N is working on this, why don't you join them and get paid .

You spoke out about this new age crap cause it does not suit you,
that's funny, what do you think is the right approach, let's have it.
You people live on bullshit forums where they teach you how to be
deceivers promoting occult crap in an underhanded sneaky way.

You were busted a long time ago along with your buddies on here.

On the old gim, you would be destroyed, not even MP/goldie/skyvike
were as blatant as some of you on here, and they were still outed.

[jabader]

Mag, I heard it said Paul is a believer in the young earth theory as well and as far as I know claims to be a christian as well.

Would you ascribe those same charges to Paul?

[Malinguenem]

Of interest to those in this thread and perhaps keehah and Magnes is the thread I posted a while back called The Great Year. It's about basically a great cycle (the precession of the equinox) and it's significance.

While it isn't just western (so Magnes probably wouldn't like it after all), the Greek source is probably over 1/3rd of the material and it meshes seamlessly with the other material. It is mostly based on just facts about what ancient cultures believed and kind of ties it all together.

[Tusanoc]

While it isn't just western (so Magnes probably wouldn't like it after all)

Don't confuse issues, don't change the subject, and don't make assumptions.

That is what you are doing here. I defend the Sumerians and Egyptians against their
stupid smears going back to gim, they were not " western ", in ideas, there is no reason
to corrupt anyone's history, especially Western history on this forum, that is another issue.
Not all of Western history is good, especially Greek/Roman. Many of the NewAge/Occult writers
rip off the Greeks too, give no credit, they tell you they are new ideas, corrupt them, that does
not mean the Greeks were right and holier, the Greeks themselves rip themselves apart,
people make a lot of assumptions on here. When you see the Occult clowns picking
targets, you have to ask yourself why ? I did, those targets include more than just
" western " peoples. Why ?

Read what Keehah wrote again, bottom half, that is what I am posting about.
Keehah was even for the Georgia Guidestones on gim posts.

I find it interesting that 2012 was used to scare people, now it is your future,
Fuck Off already, seriously. By the same clowns promoting this. Promote anything
that is not Western, that matters, attack the West and it's leaders in the process.
Just make shit up as you go along, throw in some real science and issues to make
yourself more convincing. Throw in that piece of voodoo. Usually by a Cult figure Guru.
Go to goldies website/forum, it is all 2012 voodoo, and related voodoo.

[elapicearpisp]

Don't confuse issues, don't change the subject, and don't make assumptions.

That is what you are doing here. I defend the Sumerians and Egyptians against their
stupid smears going back to gim, they were not " western ", in ideas, there is no reason
to corrupt anyone's history, especially Western history on this forum, that is another issue.
Not all of Western history is good, especially Greek/Roman. Many of the NewAge/Occult writers
rip off the Greeks too, give no credit, they tell you they are new ideas, corrupt them, that does
not mean the Greeks were right and holier, the Greeks themselves rip themselves apart,
you people make a lot of assumptions on here. When you see the Occult clowns picking
targets, you have to ask yourself why ? I did, those targets include more than just
" western " peoples. Why ? Keehah was even for the Georgia Guidestones on gim posts.

Read what Keehah wrote again, bottom half, that is what I am posting about.

I find it interesting that 2012 was used to scare people, now it is your future,
Fuck Off already, seriously. By the same clowns promoting this. Promote anything
that is not Western, that matters, attack the West and it's leaders in the process.
Just make shit up as you go along, throw in some real science and issues to make
yourself more convincing. Throw in that piece of voodoo. Usually by a Cult figure Guru.
Go to goldies website/forum, it is all 2012 voodoo.

First of all, I don't understand what keehah wrote that you didn't like? Is it this part: "Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion"?

Second, neither this thread nor the thread I posted are doom related at all. I doubt you watched either of the videos so your are making assumptions about their content. If you watch the documentary I posted, for example, there is no doom, there is no new religion. And the changing of the ages isn't voodoo, its something that has apparently been tracked by civilizations for millennia.

[M1zdL0hh]

Second, neither this thread nor the thread I posted are doom related at all.

I am speaking at the bottom paragraph in general dude,
going back to everything that has been promoted, not just
here and not just posters here, I gave the total MO. I think
I did a good job of explaining it as well, studying, experiencing,
I am giving my observations, you seem to be playing some sort
of misdirection game here, for the second time, maybe you
too are too involved with this new age voodoo and take my
comments personally, I don't know, it is clear what Keehah
wrote too, he is into it and promoting it, funny he outs some
of it here, lol, fits the rest of his posts and MO. Fits goldie too,
go to her forum. 2012, the world didn't end Occult Freaks,
what's the next game, the next put on for the lemmings.
I really do mean the Fuck Off already, it's kind of like
O VEY ! already, ffs, lol . And it is very fitting, the
parasite in question leads here.

And for the record I ain't against Mayans nor their real knowledge.
And I think the NWO crowd wants to turn us into their society
where you are sacrificed and controlled, living in a dark age, if you
think I am stretching, look at their works, like Wells, a NWO writer,
and other information out there discussed many times, including real
history where they already have experience in mass murder and
destruction, like the USSR.

[moredasers]

I am speaking at the bottom paragraph in general dude,
going back to everything that has been promoted, not just
here and not just posters here, I gave the total MO.

When you have some time I encourage you to watch the documentary in the thread I posted. I think you'd find it interesting. It's only 45 minutes:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...The-Great-Year

[Usogwdkb]

Magnes, its nice to have your thanks that I've posted good truth again.

[Edit: Even though you completely rewrote your post to make yourself seem sort of sane since I wrote this]

I'll start a thread this, on the same cycles and (basically) start dates of the world's oldest religions with links later.

Thanks for the 180 degree authentication my fan. Some day you will have an awakening and these posts can help.

Check your 'I smoted my eye out' thread troll, I did not troll it (even though most of your other idols did). My posts are basically on or related to OP topic, not part of the fighting.

You are so pathetic. You can even argue the truth of my post, you offer a few unrelated untrue things you made up that aren't even important if they are true.

I feel sorry for you. The main reason I changed my Avatar is because I thought you were not steadfast enough to be exposed to it.

[I'm glad you re-wrote your post in the last few minutes Magnes. A sign you may be awakening. From now on, I'll give you a day (perhaps) if I decide to respond to any further lunacy comment from you directed against me or this site. I tend to edit my posts in a second read myself in the first half hour, for clarity and spelling usually, but sometimes to remove something offensive that I think reflects more on me than any point I bought I was making.]

[Teareerah]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar


Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

Im not sure about any belief structure and I know of no new age religion unless awakening ,raising your consciousness could be called a religion(it isnt).

Mayan calendar is more like a tool ....use it or not......

[phenterminediett]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_religion
The traditional Maya religion of western Honduras, Guatemala, Belize, and Mexico (Chiapas and Yucatán) is a southeastern variant of Mesoamerican religion. As is the case with many other contemporary Mesoamerican religions, it results from centuries of symbiosis with Roman Catholicism. When its pre-Spanish antecedents are taken into account, however, traditional Maya religion already exists for more than two millennia as a recognizably distinct phenomenon. Before the advent of Christianity, it was spread over many indigenous kingdoms, all with their own local traditions. Today, it coexists and interacts with pan-Mayan syncretism, the 're-invention of tradition' by the Maya Movement, and Christianity in its various denominations.

[Aminkaoo]

The Catholics burnt practically all the Mayan books on the calendar.........

[Blelidupgerie]

The Catholics burnt practically all the Mayan books on the calendar.........

Only a very few codex's still exist.