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Old 11-27-2010, 02:42 AM   #21
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Ok, ok I get it the dream analogy appears not to have worked. Too literal obviously... Basically, stories about being on drugs (and the keraaazy **** you get up to) are almost always ridiculously dull.
which i have now learned.
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:55 AM   #22
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No.....
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:59 AM   #23
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Don't listen to these people Nacho.

Irvine Welsh made a fortune writing about his drug days.

The subject matter is irrelevant, it's how well you can put a story together and develop characters. If JK Rowling was an overclocker and had posted on here "okay thinking of writing a book about a boy wizard" HP may have never happened.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:00 AM   #24
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. If JK Rowling was an overclocker and had posted on here "okay thinking of writing a book about a boy wizard" HP may have never happened.
If only!
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:17 AM   #25
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If only!
For the record I agree.
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:10 AM   #26
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about a group of friends going through high school based on the trials and tribulations based upon that lifestyle with a focus on drug related experiences?
Your elevator pitch is basically, "High school drug addicts". Considering there are a lot of stories concerning drug habits, you're not really giving a lot of information that would stir people up. Just a simple elevator pitch is hard to sell a book with.

To join with the Harry Potter analogies, do you think people would be interested in a boy waving a stick? Do you think people would care much for cartoon animals who are stuck in balls (Pokémon)? Or for dwarves dropping a ring into a volcano, by bypassing an army of ugly creatures (LOTR)? Do you think people would care much for a space marine shooting aliens (Halo), or a soldier shooting at terrorists (Call of Duty)? You can't really tell that from just the short describtion.

I think a better idea would be to actually write a piece of your story, and post it. Then ask if people would want to read more. I'd suggest against asking for constructive criticism, that usually doesn't work too well around here. After reading these posts, I'd at least be curious as to what you'd come up with.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:17 AM   #27
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I would say write it, but to echo some here, not for the money. Yes, if all the stars align you can make an enormous pile of cash, but to be honest, the vast majority of authors (by a huge margin) can't sustain themselves on their craft alone. I don't have any figures in front of me at the moment but most will have day jobs, some publish several books a year under different names and supplement their income with a ludicrous amount of technical writing and journalism, etc., and then you have the select few big names you see advertised everywhere that can pretty much do whatever they want. And the advance on a first-time book deal (heck even most book deals) isn't very large. I get that instant retirement off of one book probably isn't your goal, I'm just ranting because it seems like everyone I know thinks you can come up with one good idea and five minutes later you're an overnight success story.
To join with the Harry Potter analogies, do you think people would be interested in a boy waving a stick? Do you think people would care much for cartoon animals who are stuck in balls (Pokémon)? Or for dwarves dropping a ring into a volcano, by bypassing an army of ugly creatures (LOTR)? Do you think people would care much for a space marine shooting aliens (Halo), or a soldier shooting at terrorists (Call of Duty)? You can't really tell that from just the short describtion.
Every good story has an interesting (and preferably unique) description that can be summed up in about one sentence. Knowing this before you begin to write is extremely vital to any sound, coherent story.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:34 AM   #28
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I don't think I'd read such a book. That's not to say no one will, and how does anyone know unless you write it?

If you want to write something then just go for it. No harm right? Like others said you might learn a thing or two if you pursue this idea.
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:34 PM   #29
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What? I know. But my point was, like a dream if you go and tell someone about it I guarantee they're bored as **** by it.

Ok, ok I get it the dream analogy appears not to have worked. Too literal obviously... Basically, stories about being on drugs (and the keraaazy **** you get up to) are almost always ridiculously dull.
I'd have to disagree. Why else would things like The Erowid Experience Vaults exist?
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:40 PM   #30
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What? I know. But my point was, like a dream if you go and tell someone about it I guarantee they're bored as **** by it.
Worked for Coleridge...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Taylor_Coleridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubla_Khan

Also
Hunter S Thompson had a little success with "Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas"...
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:01 PM   #31
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I remember hearing some of your high school stories back when I used to be in the old #futuremar chat. most of it was fairly interesting. Might not make the best of books, unless you can link it all together kinda so that it flows rather than just a bunch of random stories. Hell it could work out into some kind of screen play if nothing else, definitely worth perusing.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:09 AM   #32
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Hunter S Thompson had a little success with "Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas"...
Do note I said 'almost always ridiculously dull'.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:08 AM   #33
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Any concept for a story can be amazing or terrible. It depends on how it's developed. If you're serious about writing something, worry less about discovering what you think is a new genre, and concern yourself more with constructing something other people will find interesting.
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