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**saumemeva** · 08-11-2010, 05:19 AM

[quote] As for supporting someone, just pick a manufacturer. I cheer on any Ford team (

**nermise** · 09-10-2010, 10:18 AM

P3 and it's pouring down.

**TodeImmabbedo** · 09-10-2010, 10:27 AM

That's part of the lack of interest to me, what's the difference between the Ford or Holden V8 supercar? Same engine, same everything. It's only a few suspension geometry differences away from being a one make formula.

The great thing about Bathurst was that it used to be open to all manufacturer's. Not anymore [thumbdown]

Sure it's hard on equipment, but as they are full spec racing cars that share nothing with their production name sakes, who cares?

I guess to each their own. Though the manufacturers don't share the same engine they still at least have the Ford Boss 302 or a Chevy small block. Both racing engines from the US. Though I guess you mean for example all Ford teams would use the Boss 302. Also to keep racing close yes they cripple the cars and make certain engineering rules so the racing is tight. Anyhow times have changed and V8 Supercars is a brand and I guess the Holden vs Ford thing is what brings the money in.

Anyhow I always enjoy watching a good V8 battle as there always a bit of push and shove. It's close racing, and at times amateurish which leads to some exciting moves on the racetrack.

Sorry for the Hijack. But if I made a new thread I knew it wouldn't get many responses anyhow.

Well qualifying only 2.5 hours away! Grill em Webber!

**Eh085zE7** · 09-10-2010, 11:26 AM

Well P3 was a bit of a damp squib - however if it's still wet then the guys who did the laps will have a definite advantage!

Re: the V8 Supercars, the common parts are the Ford 9" based diff*, the Holinger gearbox* (H or sequential) and the brake packages*.
They use their corporate angines, modified and tuned by different engine builders.
Obviously the external bodies and aero's are different.
Toyota have been expressing interest, using the engine they developed for NASCAR as a base - but hasn't happened, unfortunately!

*Specified in the reg's.

**TodeImmabbedo** · 09-10-2010, 01:21 PM

So umm... which team has a boat?

**Eh085zE7** · 09-10-2010, 01:25 PM

Yup, delayed Q1 - watching the Bathurst shootout at the mo'! [thumbup]

**AlexanderPalamayr** · 09-10-2010, 01:32 PM

Quali looks almost dead certain to be postponed until Sunday morning now...

Ridiculously wet still

**TodeImmabbedo** · 09-10-2010, 01:44 PM

Yup, delayed Q1 - watching the Bathurst shootout at the mo'! [thumbup]

Bum on pole! [thumbup]

Though really pole means sweat FA at Bathurst. Would not surprise me if Lowndes does it again. Anyhow always some hairy moments as they make their way across the mountain.

**slowlexrese** · 09-10-2010, 02:16 PM

Is there going to be any qualifying today ?

**TodeImmabbedo** · 09-10-2010, 02:37 PM

Is there going to be any qualifying today ?

No. It's now confirmed it will be 4 hours before the race. So I guess count back on your local clocks to work out what time it's on tomorrow. For us in Melbourne that's 12pm.

**saumemeva** · 09-10-2010, 02:45 PM

So umm... which team has a boat?

Webber made one and sailed it down pit lane.

**eskimosik** · 09-10-2010, 02:52 PM

So quali in the UK will be at 3am, fantastic... was hoping to ease into my usual sleeping pattern tomorrow, after fp1 and fp3 [yawn]

**TodeImmabbedo** · 09-10-2010, 03:03 PM

Webber made one and sailed it down pit lane.

lol I saw another boat that someone sailed on the TV. Nice to see the drivers having a bit of fun.

**Eh085zE7** · 09-10-2010, 03:30 PM

Bum on pole! [thumbup]

Though really pole means sweat FA at Bathurst. Would not surprise me if Lowndes does it again. Anyhow always some hairy moments as they make their way across the mountain.

Means you're less likely to be caught up in an early crash - other than that, not that much significance, IMO.

**rouletteroulette** · 09-10-2010, 08:49 PM

Lewis demoted 5 places for changing a gearbox. [cursing]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9076871.stm

**ulnanVti** · 09-10-2010, 11:17 PM

Lewis demoted 5 places for changing a gearbox. [cursing]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9076871.stm

Shame, as if quali was cancelled again Button would be on pole and Lewis second (they do it by car numbers as Martin Whit-marsh said if no quali)

**slowlexrese** · 09-11-2010, 12:44 AM

Whats the latest weather forcast for tomorrows race ?

**nermise** · 09-11-2010, 12:49 AM

Whats the latest weather forcast for tomorrows race ?

Sunny unfortunately: http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/5007

So we could be in for a Red Bull drive off into the distance bore fest, great of course if your a Red Bull/Webber/Vettel fan.

**ulnanVti** · 09-11-2010, 01:00 AM

Sunny unfortunately: http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/5007

So we could be in for a Red Bull drive off into the distance bore fest, great of course if your a Red Bull/Webber/Vettel fan.

Problem with fan boys only care about their favourite driver doing well even if it means borefest race. I like some drivers/teams more then others but I just like watching a good race regardless of where the driver/team I like finishes, just like good racing to watch.

**slowlexrese** · 09-11-2010, 02:17 AM

Damn, was hoping for a wet race

just seems to bring more racing action into the mix. Oh well, so much for that.

08-11-2010, 05:19 AM	#21
saumemeva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	[quote] As for supporting someone, just pick a manufacturer. I cheer on any Ford team ( Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 10:18 AM	#22
nermise Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 527 Senior Member	P3 and it's pouring down. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 10:27 AM	#23
TodeImmabbedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	That's part of the lack of interest to me, what's the difference between the Ford or Holden V8 supercar? Same engine, same everything. It's only a few suspension geometry differences away from being a one make formula. The great thing about Bathurst was that it used to be open to all manufacturer's. Not anymore [thumbdown] Sure it's hard on equipment, but as they are full spec racing cars that share nothing with their production name sakes, who cares? I guess to each their own. Though the manufacturers don't share the same engine they still at least have the Ford Boss 302 or a Chevy small block. Both racing engines from the US. Though I guess you mean for example all Ford teams would use the Boss 302. Also to keep racing close yes they cripple the cars and make certain engineering rules so the racing is tight. Anyhow times have changed and V8 Supercars is a brand and I guess the Holden vs Ford thing is what brings the money in. Anyhow I always enjoy watching a good V8 battle as there always a bit of push and shove. It's close racing, and at times amateurish which leads to some exciting moves on the racetrack. Sorry for the Hijack. But if I made a new thread I knew it wouldn't get many responses anyhow. Well qualifying only 2.5 hours away! Grill em Webber! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 11:26 AM	#24
Eh085zE7 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Well P3 was a bit of a damp squib - however if it's still wet then the guys who did the laps will have a definite advantage! Re: the V8 Supercars, the common parts are the Ford 9" based diff, the Holinger gearbox (H or sequential) and the brake packages. They use their corporate angines, modified and tuned by different engine builders. Obviously the external bodies and aero's are different. Toyota have been expressing interest, using the engine they developed for NASCAR as a base - but hasn't happened, unfortunately! Specified in the reg's. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 01:21 PM	#25
TodeImmabbedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	So umm... which team has a boat? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 01:25 PM	#26
Eh085zE7 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Yup, delayed Q1 - watching the Bathurst shootout at the mo'! [thumbup] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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AlexanderPalamayr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Quali looks almost dead certain to be postponed until Sunday morning now... Ridiculously wet still Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 01:44 PM	#28
TodeImmabbedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Yup, delayed Q1 - watching the Bathurst shootout at the mo'! [thumbup] Bum on pole! [thumbup] Though really pole means sweat FA at Bathurst. Would not surprise me if Lowndes does it again. Anyhow always some hairy moments as they make their way across the mountain. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 02:16 PM	#29
slowlexrese Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Is there going to be any qualifying today ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 02:37 PM	#30
TodeImmabbedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Is there going to be any qualifying today ? No. It's now confirmed it will be 4 hours before the race. So I guess count back on your local clocks to work out what time it's on tomorrow. For us in Melbourne that's 12pm. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 02:45 PM	#31
saumemeva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	So umm... which team has a boat? Webber made one and sailed it down pit lane. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 02:52 PM	#32
eskimosik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	So quali in the UK will be at 3am, fantastic... was hoping to ease into my usual sleeping pattern tomorrow, after fp1 and fp3 [yawn] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 03:03 PM	#33
TodeImmabbedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	Webber made one and sailed it down pit lane. lol I saw another boat that someone sailed on the TV. Nice to see the drivers having a bit of fun. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 03:30 PM	#34
Eh085zE7 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Bum on pole! [thumbup] Though really pole means sweat FA at Bathurst. Would not surprise me if Lowndes does it again. Anyhow always some hairy moments as they make their way across the mountain. Means you're less likely to be caught up in an early crash - other than that, not that much significance, IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 08:49 PM	#35
rouletteroulette Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	Lewis demoted 5 places for changing a gearbox. [cursing] http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9076871.stm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2010, 11:17 PM	#36
ulnanVti Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	Lewis demoted 5 places for changing a gearbox. [cursing] http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9076871.stm Shame, as if quali was cancelled again Button would be on pole and Lewis second (they do it by car numbers as Martin Whit-marsh said if no quali) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-11-2010, 12:44 AM	#37
slowlexrese Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Whats the latest weather forcast for tomorrows race ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-11-2010, 12:49 AM	#38
nermise Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 527 Senior Member	Whats the latest weather forcast for tomorrows race ? Sunny unfortunately: http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/5007 So we could be in for a Red Bull drive off into the distance bore fest, great of course if your a Red Bull/Webber/Vettel fan. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-11-2010, 01:00 AM	#39
ulnanVti Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	Sunny unfortunately: http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/5007 So we could be in for a Red Bull drive off into the distance bore fest, great of course if your a Red Bull/Webber/Vettel fan. Problem with fan boys only care about their favourite driver doing well even if it means borefest race. I like some drivers/teams more then others but I just like watching a good race regardless of where the driver/team I like finishes, just like good racing to watch. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-11-2010, 02:17 AM	#40
slowlexrese Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Damn, was hoping for a wet race just seems to bring more racing action into the mix. Oh well, so much for that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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