[RastusuadegeFrimoum]

Perhaps I'm exaggerating a little bit and perhaps the link is wrong, but I can't say I agree with it at all if it's true.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

BRITISH parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they have not been vetted by police.

Mothers and fathers are being forced to watch their children from outside perimeter fences because of fears they could be paedophiles. So from what I can make out of this paragraph, everyone is considered paedophiles now, and need to PAY to get a police checkup before they are allowed to play with their children at parks?

I do hope they have this wrong because it's a f*cking joke. And they continue to say that the reasons kids act like retards today is because parents don't spend enough time with their kids. I'm honestly confused.

[vTLWqa1l]

pedophile until proven otherwise I guess....

Seems like the world is taking a turn towards socialism[thumbdown]
This sounds like something Hugo Chavez would do

[GaxyGroordrep]

this **** is so annoying. this is the reason i do not want to be a teacher anymore. after all the consulting from peers and the internet it seems i will just be looked at as a child toucher because i will be single and not have children and of course be a male when i go into the career. fu.ck all this stupid ass bullshit. if you cant tell all the child touching assumptions are starting too piss me off.
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[fygESytT]

Just a matter of time till they acknowledge the UK is a fascist state.

That's pretty messed up.

[ReggieRed]

Another step for eroded freedoms in the UK hooray!

[GaxyGroordrep]

Another step for eroded freedoms in the UK hooray!

you think we are doing any better? (i assume you live in the us)
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[ReggieRed]

you think we are doing any better? (i assume you live in the us)

Yes, we still have guns.

[GaxyGroordrep]

Yes, we still have guns.

we do but for how long.

and on a different subject, if you killed a pedo you would be f'ed in the a anyways.
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[jojocomok]

Bo, you're not confused!
This is the continuation of the "all men are rapists" extended to paedophilia. The hysteria is because the Schools and councils are terrified of the potential backlash that might occur is something happened to a child when under their care. They do, to a degree, have a point as the damned fol nany state requires them to take precautions against any possability of harm coming to a child in their care.

Personally, I would be loathe to see a child harmed in that way but I strongly suspect the hysteria has a more harmful affect overall than a child being assaulted (may be pporly worded, but you know what I mean). If it comes to that, wouldn't having more adults/parents around give MORE protection to the kids as there'd be more people watching them and able to take action?

It's the same sort of mentality that removes climbing frames and uses rubber foam around play equipment in playgrounds, that stops kids' from competing in sports, that doesn't allow punishment to misbehaving kids, etc.

The world can be a dangerous place and these kids are growing up not knowing what danger is or what there limits are or, perhaps most concerning, what consequences are!

When my nephew and niece were small, they were warned against playing with matches and lighters. My sister found them playing with them and was most angry with me when I told her I knew they'd sneaked them off but when I pointed out that I was keeping an eye on them and they were better learning from a small burn than setting something on fire by experimenting in secret, she saw my point. You learn from your mistakes at least as much as any other way - when I was a kid, an occasional broken arm or leg was seem as just kids growing up, something we learned our limits from. Also, after a few mishaps, we learned that sometimes our parents actually knew what they were doing and we'd pay more attention to them.

I strongly believe that a large part of teenagers getting drunk, getting into fights and causing trouble is because they never learned what their limits were and so they're pushing the limits now, to find where they are - or that actions have repercussions.

[patuvammnogoo]

Maybe if more kids got inappropriately touched they wouldn't grow up to be such pussies.

[SHpuntik]

Where are the rabid brit supporters now? Getting their pedo background checks done?

[ReggieRed]

Where are the rabid brit supporters now? Getting their pedo background checks done?

I believe we call this a ZING!

[Buyingtime]

The day the State thinks they can tell me when and where i can or can´t play with my own child, is the day i take a gun and storm the f*ckin Bundestag.

[GentlieGant]

Although I have no wish to defend Watford council's bonkers decision, this is their official statement on the matter:
Contrary to reports in the media, Watford Borough Council has not banned parents from public parks and playgrounds in the town!

The press have inaccurately reported what Harwoods and Harebreaks are; they are not open public facilites. They never have been. They are closed, fully supervised facilities.

They are no different to other fully supervised facilities, like schools, playgroups or nurseries - where adults are not allowed to stay.

Parents and carers are, of course, welcome to bring their children safely into the sites and settle them in.

If parents aren't happy leaving their children - there are lots of other options open to them. In the town, there are 5 community centres, 5 children’s centres, over 40 areas of park and playgrounds, as well as a museum, two libraries... These are also free to attend and open to everyone. Now if we can just get on with a general election, we can say goodbye to the current parliament...

[elton]

Although I have no wish to defend Watford council's bonkers decision, this is their official statement on the matter:

Now if we can just get on with a general election, we can say goodbye to the current parliament...

Why is it a "bonkers" decision? Your quote makes it seem perfectly reasonable to me. We don't let parents go wondering about schools willy nilly for instance.

As I suspected this story is just tabloid hype.

[GentlieGant]

We don't let parents go wondering about schools willy nilly for instance.

Will nilly? No. Supervised? Yes. See the difference?

[elton]

Will nilly? No. Supervised? Yes. See the difference?

Yes but parents don't get to stay with their children in schools do they? They have to drop them off then leave.

[GentlieGant]

In some circumstances, yes they do have to leave (if no reason other than they'd just be hanging around all day doing nothing) , but in others they don't - for example, when the students perform shows or take part in events. There isn't, though, a total blanket ban on parents spending time to be with their children at all times.

[#[SoftAzerZx]]

Although I have no wish to defend Watford council's bonkers decision, this is their official statement on the matter:

Oh my word! Are you telling me that the Daily Mail have made a mountain out of a mole by deliberately over sensationalizing a story? Surely not. Not the Daily Mail they wouldn't do that kind of thing.

[GentlieGant]

The reporting has, somewhat naturally, been sensationalised but it's worth noting that the current legislation does not require councils to ban all parents without CRB checks from staying in supervised council-operated areas; what it does require is that for situations which have adults gained repeated and sustained access to children, such adults must be vetted through the CRB process (and I don't agree with this either, but that's another debate). The whole point of having such places supervised is that they look out for the children by considering and observing all potential issues - Watford have decided that this is too much like hard work, whereas a blanket ban is easy to implement and maintain.