[HRS1H7gO]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...29/2640057.htm

http://www.theage.com.au/national/ky...0730-e21u.html

Recently on the Kyle and Jackie-O show a 14 year old girl was forced to admit she was Raped at the age of 12....while on a segment of the show (which involved a lie-detector)

Now all of Australia is screaming that Kyle and Jackie-O should be fired..... What are your thoughts....

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertain...victim-blunder

[eskimosik]

Sorry if I missed it (I'm drunk), do you have an actual link to the broadcast?

Edit - Nevermind - listening now.

[poekfpojoibien]

Well listening to the link, the two hosts had no knowledge of this and the mother did. I believe they done all they could to try and help out for a situation that really got completely out of control and the girl's mother should be ashamed of herself.

[eskimosik]

I agree with Lang in that the mother should be completely ashamed, putting your 14 year old daughter on a public lie detector at only 14 years of age like some Jerry Springer show is horrible. Kyle's following question was completely wrong, he should have cut it right there, he maybe asked it due to the shock and wasn't thinking, I'm not sure.

Poor kid.

[nithhysfusy]

Sounds to me they handled it well considering the situation. The mother on the other hand is a stupid tramp and wins the worst mother in the world award.
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Maryjane

[easypokergonj]

I agree with Lang in that the mother should be completely ashamed, putting your 14 year old daughter on a public lie detector at only 14 years of age like some Jerry Springer show is horrible. Kyle's following question was completely wrong, he should have cut it right there, he maybe asked it due to the shock and wasn't thinking, I'm not sure.

Poor kid.

He has said that he was stunned/shocked at the girl's response and doesn't even remember asking her that follow up question.

Whilst I feel very sorry for the girl - as if she wasn't confused enough already - a little good may come of it. The guy to face charges, the girl perhaps taken into a safer environment and the problem of young girls (and boys) being raped, sexually abused and assaulted
may be given the attention it so badly needs.

[Rndouglas]

While I think everyone agrees the mother is just pathetic. I do think the show and its producers need to be held accountable. First of all we are talking about putting a 14 year old child on public radio and interrogated on a lie detector. That has to be a breach of of some kind of privacy on an adolescent, it didn't sound to me the daughter sounded too consenting. I'm a bit grey on what the legality factors are.

Honestly if the producers didn't think the girl could deliver some juicy details for everyone I doubt they would have put them on the show. Clearly they have targeted a trashy mum with a daughter that has all sorts of problems. This isn't just some random middle class 14 year old and the show just happened to have no idea. The producers defiantly knew she could deliver. I guess they just got more than they bargained for...

[WeissVine]

While I think everyone agrees the mother is just pathetic. I do think the show and its producers need to be held accountable. First of all we are talking about putting a 14 year old child on public radio and interrogated on a lie detector. That has to be a breach of of some kind of privacy on an adolescent, it didn't sound to me the daughter sounded too consenting. I'm a bit grey on what the legality factors are.

Honestly if the producers didn't think the girl could deliver some juicy details for everyone I doubt they would have put them on the show. Clearly they have targeted a trashy mum with a daughter that has all sorts of problems. This isn't just some random middle class 14 year old and the show just happened to have no idea. The producers defiantly knew she could deliver. I guess they just got more than they bargained for...

but then what the hell does this mean? "I’ve already told you the story about this" maybe they got exactly what they bargained for. And yeah what the hell are they doing strapping up a minor to a lie detector and asking them question about their sexual activity? Worthwhile journalism this is not. What it is, is cheap tabloid trash. It makes me think of all those mock TV shows they have trailers for in The Running Man to show how low society has sunk.

Who the **** ever thought this was a good concept for a radio show? And no I don't think it gives sexual abuse the attention it needs. There's no need to desperately justify this stupidity.

[rorsvierwelia]

The female presenter handled it well, but the guy was a **** and deserves dropping, the mother needs a good ****ing slap and pointing out in no uncertain terms why that was so wrong, poor girl. [no]

[HRS1H7gO]

Just heard recently that the radio show has been put on hold and in certain terms Jackie-O and Kyle have basically been given the sack....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...03/2643773.htm

Not to mention every critic and politian is calling for there heads,....

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...012974,00.html

P.S Kyle was fired from his other job as Australian Idol Judge....Because sponsors threatened to pull out if he was not sacked....At least that is what the news has been reporting

[horaAppagob]

The Jerry Springer reference seems quite fitting. I think it's a setup. I've seen plenty of people pull the victim card after purposefully putting themselves in a situation where it would come up. I can see no other logical explanation why the mother and daugter would have agreed to do this knowing full well what would happen.

Call me a cold hearted *******, but I think there's more to this story than meets the eye, or ear in this case. The whole thing just doesn't smell right to me. I think the radio people got played big time. I'll bet they get a cash settlement.

[WeissVine]

The Jerry Springer reference seems quite fitting. I think it's a setup. I've seen plenty of people pull the victim card after purposefully putting themselves in a situation where it would come up. I can see no other logical explanation why the mother and daugter would have agreed to do this knowing full well what would happen.

Call me a cold hearted *******, but I think there's more to this story than meets the eye, or ear in this case. The whole thing just doesn't smell right to me. I think the radio people got played big time.

The "radio people" who choose to have a grown man ask a child (significantly less than) half his age about her sexual experiences? Is it just me or does that sound kind of creepy from the outset regardless of the lie detector thing?

[horaAppagob]

The "radio people" who choose to have a grown man ask a child (significantly less than) half his age about her sexual experiences? Is it just me or does that sound kind of creepy from the outset regardless of the lie detector thing?

No, not really. Fear of discussing sex with children is stupid. OMG hormones! Lets pretend they don't exist. Hell, if half the kids these days actually had an adult talk about sex, if they're active, pro's and cons, and discussed it in an adult way to try and reason with them as peers I think we'd get somewhere. Instead we sweep it under a rug and treat sex as taboo.

[WeissVine]

No, not really. Fear of discussing sex with children is stupid. OMG hormones! Lets pretend they don't exist. Hell, if half the kids these days actually had an adult talk about sex, if they're active, pro's and cons, and discussed it in an adult way to try and reason with them as peers I think we'd get somewhere. Instead we sweep it under a rug and treat sex as taboo.

Why do people try and defend this show like it was doing society some great service by hooking a teen up to a lie detector on live radio? Sure it's great for adults to sit down and have a mature discussion with their children about sexuality but that's not what this was. This was asking a young teen about her sexual habits for cheap entertainment. I seriously struggle to see how you could even attempt to equate the two.

And by the way, I think your attitude is one of the problems we have with kids and sex/drugs. You want adults to sit down with them as peers. Adults are not their peers and it just comes across badly when some adult who thinks they know how to 'rap with the kids' decides they are going to talk to teens on their level. You can't.

[horaAppagob]

Why do people try and defend this show like it was doing society some great service by hooking a teen up to a lie detector on live radio?

You said "regardless of the lie detector". I was under the impression you were talking about "isn't it creepy for old dudes to ask young girls about sex". In which case I think the answer is no. Talking about sex isn't the same as saying "I want to have sex with 14 year old girls". The fact that our society thinks that way shows that we have issues. Everyone thinks everyone else is a pedo.

If we're bringing the lie detector into it, then I think it could be done for any number of reasons. Amusement, curiosity, whatever. Maybe they wanted to show that society has problems. Regardless of their reasons she chose to participate in it. She had any number of options such as not showing up or refusing to answer certain questions.

And by the way, I think your attitude is one of the problems we have with kids and sex/drugs. You want adults to sit down with them as peers. Adults are not their peers and it just comes across badly when some adult who thinks they know how to 'rap with the kids' decides they are going to talk to teens on their level. You can't. Teenagers are adults without experience. Bullshitting them gets you nowhere and only pisses them off once they realize they're being treated as if they're mentally handicapped.

Parenting is like any other job. When you're training a new recruit they're going to make mistakes, and many of the mistakes are because you forgot to train them properly. Teenagers most commonly screw up because adults have failed to raise them properly.

When adults start being honest and providing all the facts without the bullshit teens will start listening. Until then they'll smell the adult bullshit and figure it out on their own.

[WeissVine]

You said "regardless of the lie detector". I was under the impression you were talking about "isn't it creepy for old dudes to ask young girls about sex". In which case I think the answer is no. Talking about sex isn't the same as saying "I want to have sex with 14 year old girls". The fact that our society thinks that way shows that we have issues. Everyone thinks everyone else is a pedo.

Oh I'm quite happy to live with the idea that random grown men are viewed suspiciously if they start questioning girls about their sexual habits. Again you seem to be making this leap where by Kyle is supposedly asking this girl out of a concern to educate her about sexuality. It was purely done for amusement/entertainment. That's what I meant even if you remove the lie detector test gimmick still having someone ask a girl about her sexual experiencing for entertainment is not cool.

Teenagers are adults without experience.

I think that's being generous, they are generally **** sure, arrogant and largely unthinking about the consequences of their actions outside of their own little worlds.

[heilyprollecyspor]

anyone have a transcript, no speaker at workplace

[fd8IIys2]

I have listened to the Kyle and Jackie O show plenty of times, and I think Kyle is an absolute c**t... actually they are both pretty horrible people. I personally do hope they both get taken off their air for this stunt... but I know they won't.

"To have a 14-year-old girl come on as a practical joke, as the butt of jokes, where she actually said, 'I don't want to do this I'm scared', and they pushed on. I found it really an appalling exercise in poor judgment and in very bad taste."

...the show is trash. Oh well, some people like it. So whatever. I just hate Kyle and Jackie O, they are both elitist wankers.

[ådrrraj]

Kyle is a ****** plain and simple, and Jackie-O is just simple.
I don't listen to the show and never will I hear too much from them and about them already.

However I laughed my head off at the Frenzal Rhomb vs Jackie-O and Kyle thing a few years back.

[fd8IIys2]

However I laughed my head off at the Frenzal Rhomb vs Jackie-O and Kyle thing a few years back.

That was soooo f**king funny!! Kyle's like: "We will never play your music every again" and they were like "You don't play it anyway d**khead!" [rofl]