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Old 02-27-2009, 03:50 AM   #1
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Default Good Samaritan ticketed for jaywalking in Denver
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline...samaritan.html

Like the little kid selling lemonade who gets a fine, this is another one of those stories about blind bureaucracy.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:55 AM   #2
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wow thats lame..
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:41 AM   #3
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thats how bad the economy is
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:45 AM   #4
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Did anyone read the article? While he did a good thing, the police determined the accident was caused by jaywalking! He caused it! It balances out and he is now just a regular Samaritan.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:44 PM   #5
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Did anyone read the article? While he did a good thing, the police determined the accident was caused by jaywalking! He caused it! It balances out and he is now just a regular Samaritan.
i did read it and it also stated that the driver of the truck that hit the man was ticketed with causing the accident due to reckless driving... its like the police are contradicting themselves...

if it wasn't for that guy helping then the accident still would have happened it just would have been far worse. police are just looking for more ways to ticket people and make money.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:57 AM   #6
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i did read it and it also stated that the driver of the truck that hit the man was ticketed with causing the accident due to reckless driving... its like the police are contradicting themselves...

if it wasn't for that guy helping then the accident still would have happened it just would have been far worse. police are just looking for more ways to ticket people and make money.
I disagree. The driver of the truck was ticketed because, well, they hit someone! You should always pay attention because pedestrians like to pop up everywhere. However, if this man had not been jaywalking this accident would have been avoided.

The jaywalking directly caused the accident. The "recklessness" is not what I think you picture where you hear that. From what I understand, they weren't drunk and swerving, thats not what it meant. It just means they hit a person because they weren't paying close attention. Yes, their bad for sure, but it happens all the time. By chance (or some astrological force!) another law was being broken at the same time and this happened. There is nothing to indicate that the driver would have committed a worse accident later, like you suggest.

Like the police said, his intentions were no doubt genuine, but he did break the law and caused an accident.
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:17 AM   #7
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I disagree.
I disagree with your disagreement. :P

If I read it right he was helping other people cross, who were already going to cross. If he hadn't been helping them they would have been hit anyway. All he did was change who was hit.

the impatient driver of a pickup passed in a left-hand turn lane and hit them. It might vary state to state, but passing in a turn lane is illegal in some places. It said he passed in the left turn lane. Turn lanes are NOT for passing people, they're for turning. Where I live you can get a ticket if you use the center turn lane for passing people.
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:23 AM   #8
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[COLOR="Navy"]I disagree. The driver of the truck was ticketed because, well, they hit someone! You should always pay attention because pedestrians like to pop up everywhere. However, if this man had not been jaywalking this accident would have been avoided.

The jaywalking directly caused the accident. The "recklessness" is not what I think you picture where you hear that. From what I understand, they weren't drunk and swerving, thats not what it meant. It just means they hit a person because they weren't paying close attention. Yes, their bad for sure, but it happens all the time. By chance (or some astrological force!) another law was being broken at the same time and this happened. There is nothing to indicate that the driver would have committed a worse accident later, like you suggest.
Considering the bus driver pushed a couple of old ladies out of the way of the truck, yes he can say that the accident would have been much worse. As in running down a pair of old ladies worse. No one said squat about the accident happening later. I guess next time he should just stay on his bus and let the old ladies get run over.
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:37 AM   #9
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Missed that, RainWind. Thanks for pointing it out.

I agree that what he did was extraordinary. There is no doubt that he saved those elderly women.

They were jaywalking though. It's stupid they would be ticketed with it, but had they not been this wouldn't have happened. I think its insensitive of the police to do so, but they are well within the law to issue the ticket.


No one said squat about the accident happening later.
You are correct. I misinterpreted what UnXpectedError was saying a few posts ago.


I guess next time he should just stay on his bus and let the old ladies get run over.
I don't know about there, but here a jaywalking ticket is very minor. Maybe a few bucks. It's not like he will have to serve jail time or anything.
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:41 AM   #10
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either way, Im sure the dude is gonna get some $$ from the guy's insurance and he'll be able to pay the $50 ticket for jaywalking.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:58 PM   #11
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That ticket will get tossed out and I wouldn't be surprised if that cop gets into some serious trouble.


Plus, who actually gives out jaywalking tickets? I have jay walked plenty of times in front of cops with no tickets being passed out. I actually think that at least in my state, I can walk out onto the interstate and if someone hit me, they would get into trouble, not me.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:19 AM   #12
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If you willingly walked out onto an interstate and got hit they might commit you.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:50 AM   #13
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Jaywalking is illegal?

If the government wants to rake in some cash, they could just have the police force drive around a college campus between classes when 5000 students pour out of buildings and drag traffic to a standstill for 10 minutes (at least at my campus). They'd take in a million dollars a day - per campus.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:17 AM   #14
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People can argue about this all they want. but its pretty clear, all people involved were jaywalking. from the fact jaywalking was mentioned they were not crossing at a designated area of the road to cross (for example crosswalk/pedestrian crossing). in that circumstance the only way they can proceed to cross (if crossing isnt prohibited at that area) the road is if all road users yielded to them. clearly this isnt the case. I dont know about there but even here, there are certain areas where pedestrians are prohibited from crossing a road, these areas tend to be the same areas where people get them selves injured or worse.

They recklessly attempted to cross a road in lesser visibility conditions and did infact cause the accident.

From what i got from the article those elderly women were well able to care of themselves. it states the driver pushed them out of the way, yet there's no mention of injury to the elderly women. in my book if granny can take a push she's more than capable of taking care of herself
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:37 AM   #15
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They should introduce that law into the UK.

The government would make a killing from people who jay walk in the UK.
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