[Yifnvmzp]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23322174

I started a thread on this subject several weeks ago when it all began, and many opinions were heard. [yes]

Now the courts have spoken, and the case moves on......

EDIT: New information link added.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_msftvista28.html?source=mypi

MORE details:

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/132891.asp

[Extinimot]

Stupid case and a waste of time. I hope it gets thrown out

[dremucha]

there is no question vista is bloatware(tm),
how can any computer be bloatware(tm) ready in the 1st place? [rofl]

are these vista supported system unable to run aero because it doesn't have a DX9 VPU?[beta]

[KasaBalak]

Stupid case and a waste of time. I hope it gets thrown out

Indeed.

Didn't system manufacturer put that label/sticker on system in first place and claim it's Vista "capable"? Not Microsoft...

[carpartsho]

The only thing that's going to come out of this is that things are going to have even more fine print on them. "This Coffee is hot!" wow who knew... Just change it to 'Vista should boot on this computer.'

[Enalsebeerkawl]

The only thing that's going to come out of this is that things are going to have even more fine print on them. "This Coffee is hot!" wow who knew... Just change it to 'Vista should boot on this computer.'

"Vista Capable, but not the pretty version your thinking of"

Thats what it'll say.

MS sells a stripped down vista, which is called "Vista"!!! So guess what, my machine is vista capable, even though its a DX8 GPU so no glassy interface, but it'll still run it.

I think the class action lawsuit should fail. However, MS should have released a single version of Vista, just as Apple released a single version of OS X, and they just keep updating that version, 10.x.....

[dremucha]

However, MS should have released a single version of Vista, just as Apple released a single version of OS X, and they just keep updating that version, 10.x..... the funny thing is MS was actually saying they will look into standardizing their OS in the future. in XP's SP2 update, some of the screen and panel that were different between pro and home were changed to the same one... i was thinking "look like they got it right".....

than they pull the crap of making 5 to 6 version of Vista... what was they thinking!? [rofl]

yeah, make your money... but pls maintain some consistancy in your direction!

[Enalsebeerkawl]

the funny thing is MS was actually saying they will look into standardizing their OS in the future. in XP's SP2 update, some of the screen and panel that were different between pro and home were changed to the same one... i was thinking "look like they got it right".....

than they pull the crap of making 5 to 6 version of Vista... what was they thinking!? [rofl]

yeah, make your money... but pls maintain some consistancy in your direction!

OS X 10.4.x still look as pretty on a newer mac as it does on an old crappy G3 mac.

Leopard, 10.5 only runs on 800mhz machines and faster. but the graphical differences are non-existant, though its quite a bit slower with a R7500 than with the newer cards.

Runs fine on my G4 Mirror door (1.25ghz x2, 2gb ram, R9000)

[chuecaloversvvp]

Wouldn't this be an issue with the manufacturer? Unless of course Microsoft was the one doing the determining.

I honestly think the consumers have a point. Vista = Aero. Without the fancy interface its just a bloated crappy version of XP. If the PC can't run Aero, then I really don't think they should be putting a "vista ready" sticker on it.

Altho I don't really think these people should be getting upset. For the most part Vista sucks. Getting pissed about not being able to run vista at full settings is like complaining that weatherbug doesn't eat enough resources.

[Hofonom]

Indeed.

Didn't system manufacturer put that label/sticker on system in first place and claim it's Vista "capable"? Not Microsoft...

I would imagine that Microsoft licensed them to put that 'Designed for Windows XP - Windows Vista Capable" on their hardware at cost to the manufacturer or the sticker constitutes an advertisement by Microsoft in which case what you are suggesting is like suing the billboard owner for false advertising because of an ad placed by a third party. Obviously something like that is situation in this case or else the judge wouldn't have given the case the go ahead.

[Mifsnavassy]

Oh look - another stupid ******* court case where there is only one winner - the lawyers.
This isn't a complete waste of everyone's time...honest.

[spklnraz]

If the PC can't run Aero, then I really don't think they should be putting a "vista ready" sticker on it.

They had two stickers I believe; Vista Capable and Vista Premium. Thats where I think the confusion stemmed from. Either way, all people had to do was a little reading to know the difference. [rolleyes] This is a waste of time and money.

[chuecaloversvvp]

They had two stickers I believe; Vista Capable and Vista Premium. Thats where I think the confusion stemmed from. Either way, all people had to do was a little reading to know the difference. [rolleyes] This is a waste of time and money.

A little reading? The average joe could do a lot of reading and still not understand it. Remember, we're dealing with people who don't know the difference between a gigglebut and a megahurt.

The lawsuit is definitely a waste of time and money, as the people who got confused by the whole issue won't get anything anyway.

I've seen what happens in those stores. Went along with a few family members. Not only are those stickers useless because the average Joe will assume it means it'll run the Vista they see on every machine in the store the sales people are assclowns. They're so full of misinformation it makes me want to vomit. They're either stupid, or they're lying to make a buck.

[spklnraz]

I've seen what happens in those stores. Went along with a few family members. Not only are those stickers useless because the average Joe will assume it means it'll run the Vista they see on every machine in the store the sales people are assclowns. They're so full of misinformation it makes me want to vomit. They're either stupid, or they're lying to make a buck.

This is true.

A quick google and I was able to determine what I need. If the average Joe cant do that, or doesn't understand something simple like that, they don't need Vista let alone Aero!

It was a lame tactic by MS/Retailers for sure, but they did nothing legally wrong Morally on the other hand...[thumbdown]

[Yifnvmzp]

This is true.

A quick google and I was able to determine what I need. If the average Joe cant do that, or doesn't understand something simple like that, they don't need Vista let alone Aero!

It was a lame tactic by MS/Retailers for sure, but they did nothing legally wrong Morally on the other hand...[thumbdown]

If I was the lawyer, I would go after them for "material misrepresentation" or something along those lines. It would probably be one of my best chances at a win..or even better, a settlement.

[spklnraz]

If I was the lawyer, I would go after them for "material misrepresentation" or something along those lines. It would probably be one of my best chances at a win..or even better, a settlement.

I don't think they would have a leg to stand on. Vista Home Basic is Vista. Plain and simple. It will run Vista exactly like they claimed it would. If you want premium, you'll need one with a "Vista Premium" sticker.

[Yifnvmzp]

I don't think they would have a leg to stand on. Vista Home Basic is Vista. Plain and simple. It will run Vista exactly like they claimed it would. If you want premium, you'll need one with a "Vista Premium" sticker.

The judge apparently found merit, and seems to even have given them some advice on how to proceed.

[Yifnvmzp]

And now, other information appears That will almost certainly become pertinent in the suit.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...ml?source=mypi

MORE Details.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/132891.asp

[Deribasov]

And now, other information appears That will almost certainly become pertinent in the suit.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...ml?source=mypi

MORE Details.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/132891.asp

In another message, Microsoft executive Mike Nash wrote that he "personally got burned by the Intel 915 chipset issue."

"I know that I chose my laptop (a SONY TX770P) because it had the Vista logo and was pretty disappointed that it not only wouldn't run Glass, but more importantly wouldn't run Movie Maker," Nash wrote. "I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine." A microsoft exec bought a $2100 laptop based on the vista capable sticker?... That's not an Intel 915 chipset issue if you ask me [rofl]

Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the average joes walking into their local electronics store hoping for a decent all-rounder PC/laptop and not getting what they expected, but surely an MS exec should have known better?

[Yifnvmzp]

A microsoft exec bought a $2100 laptop based on the vista capable sticker?... That's not an Intel 915 chipset issue if you ask me [rofl]

Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the average joes walking into their local electronics store hoping for a decent all-rounder PC/laptop and not getting what they expected, but surely an MS exec should have known better?

All true, but the first reaction of many people to this news was that the suit must be groundless. I think that it can be seen here why the Judge had little choice but to let it continue. It does not look nearly so cut and dried now, does it?.