[Mister.levitra]

Thats awesome. I have always wanted a Del Sol, and would love to get one if the time comes. I would want to make it look all nice and then sell it. The people who have them around here, rice them out and it just makes me so mad. An older Honda that actually looks good, and these ricers have to ruin the cars.

I know that with a lot of these smaller Honda engines, they like to be revved, and even in automatics, they run up to 4/5k rpm before a shift. Though taking it up to 6,000rpm is well past peak torque and getting close to peak hp, so I am sure that taking it up that far would be the reason for the economy. You sure must like to get up to speed pretty quick then!

[sadgpokx]

Thats awesome. I have always wanted a Del Sol, and would love to get one if the time comes. I would want to make it look all nice and then sell it. The people who have them around here, rice them out and it just makes me so mad. An older Honda that actually looks good, and these ricers have to ruin the cars.

I know that with a lot of these smaller Honda engines, they like to be revved, and even in automatics, they run up to 4/5k rpm before a shift. Though taking it up to 6,000rpm is well past peak torque and getting close to peak hp, so I am sure that taking it up that far would be the reason for the economy. You sure must like to get up to speed pretty quick then!

I do, I like the sound of it too! I mean it isn't "fast" and it doesn't sound amazing, but for a normal "cheap" car it sounds better then most and it's fun to drive. Also, any kind of "power" comes past at least 4k, the sweet spot seems to be 5k or higher for like passing on the highway from 50 to 70mph or something. It's kind of heavy too, I think it has at least a few hundred pounds on the Civic that uses the same engine, probably for extra support since the top comes off. Mine isn't perfect, it's got a few scratches and a couple dings but the paint looks pretty good since most it's time it was garage kept (Samba Green!) and it has tasteful aftermarket rims and wheels. I can't think of a better car I could have got for ~$3300. The 944S that I was looking at was in amazing condition, perfect leather, perfect paint, and low miles for the age (~120k to 145k or something) but it was $4800 and in the end the title was missing and the owner wasn't actually that motivated to find the title, CarFax didn't report it stolen or anything though so I'm still not sure what was up with that.

I can get my automatic to shift at like 2,500 to 2,700 rpm if I'm light with my foot and slightly let up on the gas once I reach 20mph and 30 mph respectively. If I'm driving just normal though and not pushing it but also not really trying to ease my way up to speed with as few rpm as I can it seems to run to about 3500 rpm or 3700 rpm or something before a shift. I'm sure it also isn't in perfect condition any more. I replaced the plugs just about a week ago, but the old ones actually didn't look that bad when I pulled them but it probably just isn't in it's peak any more, which is understandable for 14 years or something.

Edit: I wish Honda still made the Del Sol! I know the S2000 kind of replaced the Del Sol line but it also replaced the target crowd to! Honda needs to make a "sporty" looking car that is the same kind of price as the Miata or something. If they could price it between like $17 and $19k and kept it slightly larger then the Miata (at least my Del Sol is a lot more comfortable to drive compared to the last gen Miata!) I think it would sell decent! Use the same engines as the Civic's, base 140hp and the almost 200hp Si model that revs up to 8,000rpm and better transmissions and it would rock! You've got the $30,000 S2000 for people that want... well I'm not sure who spends that much on a ~240hp roadster from Honda but I think any Civic person that could live with a two seater would jump at the Del Sol.

[Anaedilla]

i know i need to replace my car this year, 30-40mpg is not good for a 1.4 engine even if its 10 years old

think a cupra tdi ibiza is on the cars, 0-60 in 7secs and 50mpg

[WapSaibian]

On my Camaro I get 3-5 mpg depending on how I drive it. LOL

[ffdfriendforurr]

I call BS on anyone who claims 35+ MPG on a petrol engine for "city" driving. If you are getting those type of numbers, you must not be stopping every couple of blocks for traffic lights or dealing with lines of traffic. I have a 2.5L I-4 and spent an entire tank driving while keeping under 2000 rpm for shifts while driving to and from work in Atlanta. I got a whopping 21.3 MPG. I then spent another tank driving aggressively from light to light and got 19.6 MPG. Even my 1991 Prelude Si with a 2.0L I-4 did not do any better than 22 MPG in the city.

Now cruising on the highway at 75 MPH in 6th gear, I can pull 30 MPG... but that's much different.

[JesexhiSeeces]

I call BS on anyone who claims 35+ MPG on a petrol engine for "city" driving. If you are getting those type of numbers, you must not be stopping every couple of blocks for traffic lights or dealing with lines of traffic. I have a 2.5L I-4 and spent an entire tank driving while keeping under 2000 rpm for shifts while driving to and from work in Atlanta. I got a whopping 21.3 MPG. I then spent another tank driving aggressively from light to light and got 19.6 MPG. Even my 1991 Prelude Si with a 2.0L I-4 did not do any better than 22 MPG in the city.

Now cruising on the highway at 75 MPH in 6th gear, I can pull 30 MPG... but that's much different.

I dunno, everyone claiming those numbers is European. Not only are they driving cars with engines half the size of yours, but their roads/road system is probably different as well.

I do agree with you that "taking it easy" doesn't really add to the fuel economy all that much.

[Mister.levitra]

I claimed 32mpg average in my old 2000 Honda Accord 2.3L I4 5-Speed. Then the guy who bought it did something to it and pulled 34mpg average.

For me, it was never going above 60. Always mainly between 45~60mph. Plus a lot of around town traffic. It isn't like downtown traffic, but just around town traffic.

Plus, I had the baseline of the baseline Accords. Weighed around 2800lbs I think. No power windows, no power locks, no cruise control, nothing like that. All that it came with was A/C.
Lowest that I ever pulled was 28mpg and I was ripping it through the gears pretty often. Almost beat a Supra Twin-Turbo down a windy as hell 4 mile stretch of road.

[orbidewa]

I call BS on anyone who claims 35+ MPG on a petrol engine for "city" driving. If you are getting those type of numbers, you must not be stopping every couple of blocks for traffic lights or dealing with lines of traffic. I have a 2.5L I-4 and spent an entire tank driving while keeping under 2000 rpm for shifts while driving to and from work in Atlanta. I got a whopping 21.3 MPG. I then spent another tank driving aggressively from light to light and got 19.6 MPG. Even my 1991 Prelude Si with a 2.0L I-4 did not do any better than 22 MPG in the city.

Now cruising on the highway at 75 MPH in 6th gear, I can pull 30 MPG... but that's much different.

Don't underestimate small modern diesels

[Anfester]

Last Saturday I got my new car, it's a 2006 Mercedes-Benz C280T, 3.0l V6-engine with 231 horsepower...I drove it home from a location near my brother's home, which is about 210miles, and after I got back I re-filled it, giving me 9,2l / 100km, that's 25,5mpg (US) or 30,6mpg (UK), but that was on the "Autobahn", and I was driving really slow, max. 110mph, most of the time I was going like 75mph...
But when driving through the city, the consumption goes up to 12l/ 100km, which is 19,6mpg (US) and 23,5mpg (UK)...good luck I don't need to drive through the city to get to work...^^

[Qrhzbadu]

On my Camaro I get 3-5 mpg depending on how I drive it. LOL

Hah, that's what it was like in my '79 F-250 (400 C.I. big block)
Even though gas was cheap then (under $1.00 / gallon) only getting 8 MPG really didn't help things

[emorbimefed]

Vauxhall quote 48MPG under standard conditions on my 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa (80bhp), but due to the way I drive it (which means a fairly heavy right foot), I always get 40MPG.

It's good enough around town and for the various roads in the local area, so it's all good. I'm suprised it hit 110mph once when I went flat out (ground was level). Not bad for a little 1.2 engine.

[JohnImamadviser]

Vauxhall quote 48MPG under standard conditions on my 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa (80bhp), but due to the way I drive it (which means a fairly heavy right foot), I always get 40MPG.

It's good enough around town and for the various roads in the local area, so it's all good. I'm suprised it hit 110mph once when I went flat out (ground was level). Not bad for a little 1.2 engine.

Yeah I think 48mpg is rather optimistic! My mate has a 1.2 Corsa SXI (C shape) and gets about 200 miles from a tank! He has 17's on it though and there's a lot of traffic lights round where he lives.

My '94 Civic (1.3 16V carb engine) will do about 42-45mpg in winter and 44-46mpg in winter, including a bit of heavy right foot from time to time! That usually works out at 320 miles per tank, though I never run the tank that close to empty (45l tank and the most I ever fill up seems to be about 35!).

[DP5Ups8o]

Well. I drive a 1.8liter Toyota Celica. I generally can get about 27-29 miles per gallon city and about 34-36 highway.

But my gas is pretty much free. Since I can pretty much get 400 miles out of a tank cause of all the highway miles I put on, my company pays me about $160. About 40.5cent per mile. That's 4 times what I pay at the pump but at least it also pays for maintenance and wear and tear.

In about a month I make more then enough for a complete car payment. So really, my car and gas are free.

[sadgpokx]

Well I filled it to the top (super huge 10.9 gallon tank!) a couple days ago and since then I've been driving as gentle as I can, but trying to get high enough speed to have the automatic drop down into another gear. So far I've done 50 miles and I'm just not at 1/4 tank used yet, it's still too soon to tell if I'm making much of an improvement over the 23mpg average. By half tank I should notice a difference but boy is it hard to drive like this. I find that cruising at like 35 to 37 mph seems to require about 2k to 2,300 rpm and highway at 60mph seems to require more like 3,000 rpm! To stay near 1,500 rpm requires me doing about 26 to 27 mph! The car really wasn't geared towards economy I guess, the engine has no torque under about 3,000 rpm. I still love my car and I'm happy at 23mpg if it means at least I get to feel slightly sporty in my small, low, two door car

[IdomeoreTew]

There is no way I can do this. I wish I would have sprung for an iPhone so I too could know my mileage.

[sadpanda]

[freediscountplanrrxip]

lots of cars show mpg on the dash . I drive an 11yr old seat ibiza gti , mut have trip,mgp,temp etc computer in the dash . I get about 28mpg though

[neguoogleX]

my 94 accord averages ~ 28-29mpg city/highway (5sp manual)
my 92 subaru SVX averages ~ 11.6 Mpg (granted im in CO now, so the high altitude/extreme cold doesn't help) supposedly it will get 25ish highway though, which ill find out in a few months

[Mister.levitra]

11.6mpg? Wow. Thats insane for it not being boosted.

I love those cars, though only draw back is I think they never came with a manual.

[neguoogleX]

nope, but im tempted to buy one with less miles and throw a 2003 or newer rex tranny in it (5sp) the stock tranny isn't enough to handle the torque this thing puts out, H-6 230hp 230 torque. crazy motor for the car . i think the fuel will be much better, its like 0 degrees F out here or less every morning, so it has to defrost (inside gets icy(?)) for like 10 mins before i can see out the window, so that doesn't help at all, im guessing back in good old WI @ closer to sea level, ill be getting much better than 11.6

[teergoBissono]

My Accord V6 EX gets around 19-20 in city MPG which equates to around 500 miles or less a month of in city driving. I usually spend about $45 in gas a month in Montana.