[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

Lets hope my Honda is different! [thumbup]

Apparently, EVERY single VTEC engine that Honda have sold. Not one of them has failed.

The only reason why a Honda engine would fail would probably be due to user neglect/abuse (then again, the honda engines can take a lot of abuse and not die)

[joulseenjoync]

Plus diesel performance is equal if not better than petrol engines.

Audi made rudolf diesel smile in his grave by the le mans races.

Yep they are great fun just they dont sound so great

A workmate had a 05 reg A3 2.0 tdi, it had 140+ bhp and for a small car it was mental [shocked]

[Enjoymmsq]

theres quite few things to counter act that actually after market sound proofing and remapping.

better engine oils

remapping in my case would make the engine run smoother and quieter

[SappyAppy]

theres quite few things to counter act that actually after market sound proofing and remapping.

better engine oils

remapping in my case would make the engine run smoother and quieter

I'm aware alot more modern cars these days tend to use Semi-synthetic or fully synthetic for engine oils (fair play, as this work alot better than mineral oils). However I'm aware that you shouldn't just empty an engine that has been running on mineral oil for many years straight to a fully synthetic oil. Or is it safe to do so?

[Alkanyadela]

I'm aware alot more modern cars these days tend to use Semi-synthetic or fully synthetic for engine oils (fair play, as this work alot better than mineral oils). However I'm aware that you shouldn't just empty an engine that has been running on mineral oil for many years straight to a fully synthetic oil. Or is it safe to do so?

Mineral/synthetic/half synthetic are not really big differences.
Viscosity and thickness in cold/warm temperatures is what counts. Usually just stick with the oil that the car manufactures prescribes is best and safest way to go..

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

Yep they are great fun just they dont sound so great

A workmate had a 05 reg A3 2.0 tdi, it had 140+ bhp and for a small car it was mental [shocked]

My mate just got himself a 1.3 diesel punto. It's the 90bhp version and even that has a lot of pull.

I like diesels beecause they generally have more torque than the petrol counterpart. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick.

[oscilsoda]

Diesels are better for everyday driving as all of the grunt is down low.

This makes them great for overtaking and climbing hills. (you don't have to down-shift)

[RichardHaads]

Yeap, thats it.... my trusty car has died this morning.... Its a 1997 P reg Peugeot 306 1.9 Turbo Diesel. Done just over 150k miles, and was going strong........

Untill last month when it needed a new clutch.... then break shoes... then some pillock reversed into the front indicator... then a cat jumped in front of my car and broke the bumper.... then the exhaust broke off (had it fixed)

and finaly this morning, it gave up the ghost. I started it up, and it sounded like i was in a tank! Smoke was bellowing out, rattling like a trooper and loss of revs when starting off.

Took it to a garage, and got it on the ramps, to find that its blown a gasket, and the turbo has blown [shocked]

Nooooooot good! So its now going to be turned into a cube! I have had enough of paying out all the time!


Sooooooo, in turn, im planning on buying a new Honda Civic S type, or R type.... Ideally i would love an R type, but its insurance group 17, while the S type is 9.... Lots of price difference.

Just pissed off it died this time in the year....

Oh, and my insurance runs out 16th this month [cursing]

[Suvaxal]

Unlucky mate - just out of curiosity how much did it cost you in total to repair all those things that needed fixing before it finally died?

[oscilsoda]

Had the same thing happen to a family members Citroen Xantia 1.9TD last month.

It was a 95 model with around 160k miles and I believe it used exactly the same engine as your car.

Basically she drove it and claimed "it started making lots of noise and lost power".

I tried to start it and it barely turned over... when it did finally start it sounded like a bag of hammers.

She has just spent £200 getting the hydrolic suspension sorted as well.

[Darlmtgq]

S-Type? That seems like a none Si here as our Si seems like your guy's Type-R. Didn't know that there was an S-Type till now.
Those civics that you guys got are pretty whicked looking. Not as boring looking as our Si.
Does Diesel vs. Petrol effect which insurance bracket the car falls under?

[animilius]

'You have thirty minutes to move your car.' 'You have ten minutes to move your car.' 'Your car has been impounded.' 'Your car has been crushed into a cube.' 'You have thirty minutes to move your cube.'

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

S-Type? That seems like a none Si here as our Si seems like your guy's Type-R. Didn't know that there was an S-Type till now.
Those civics that you guys got are pretty whicked looking. Not as boring looking as our Si.
Does Diesel vs. Petrol effect which insurance bracket the car falls under?

The Type R isn't available in the US afaik. The only equivalent is the Si model which is 160bhp iirc.

The S-type is basically looks the same as a Type R cometically although it sports a 1.8l Vtec engine rather than the 2l power house of the Type R.

Then again, the UK-spec Type R is ok looking, I'd rather have the JDM-only Civic Type R which replaces the DC5 Integra.



Funny how the Civic Type R Hatchback is made in Swindon in UK and then gets exported back to Japan. It's even funnier how they paint it Championship White here and then don't offer it in the dealers. [thumbdown]

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Wazzay you could maybe opt for the EP3 hatch instead. Even though the insurance group is still 17 just like the new FN2 ones, you can pick one up for quite cheap. You could find yourself a decent one with about 20-40k miles on it for less than £9k.

[Oriesssedleli419]

Red Ring of Death?

[immewaycypef]

My mate has a 2.0 HDI 306 ... he's going for his new clutch today.

Unlucky mate, I always avoid French cars cos I think their built by pixies using blu-tac and sellotape.

Civic Type-S is nice ... Type-R is nice too if ur willing to rag the tits out of it to get some speed! [thumbup]

[oscilsoda]

Does Diesel vs. Petrol effect which insurance bracket the car falls under?

No difference... insurance companies look at performance figures, not engine type.

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

Type-R is nice too if ur willing to rag the tits out of it to get some speed! [thumbup]

Although the iVTEC engines are great, I actually prefer the older generation VTEC engines found in the DC2 and EK9.

The older generation had that strong kick and noticeable VTEC change over.Plus it sounded the tits when you reached VTEC. [thumbup]

[SappyAppy]

Unlucky mate, I always avoid French cars cos I think their built by pixies using blu-tac and sellotape.

Although I had a French car and now I own a Vauxhall, I can't deny you're wrong there even though I was in denial when I owned a Renault (mind you, the engine kept going but the suspension parts kept giving all sorts of noises). The way French cars are built is appalling. I only happened to go up north last weekend to see my relatives and while I was there, my uncle had to fix two cars - one of which was a '53 reg Renault Clio. The state of it mechanically-wise was appalling, and it had only done 30k miles. The job that was required was to replace a knackered driveshaft (I even had a look at the knackered one, and it was all rusty and broken) as Renault wanted 200 quid to replace it (my uncle charged £40 for whoever this customer was). Terrible customer service, and the customer wasn't exactly happy afterwards as the problem was to fix an ABS light on the dash, and a new driveshaft (like Renault recommended) didn't fix it. Beyond a knackered driveshaft, you could spot other things wrong such as green and black coolant (looked very dirty towards the bottom).

Now I own a Vauxhall, I certainly won't be going anywhere near another French car. Anything's bound to be more alot more reliable (maybe not for some Italian manufacturers), and it doesn't necessarily have to be Japanese.

[RichardHaads]

Unlucky mate - just out of curiosity how much did it cost you in total to repair all those things that needed fixing before it finally died?

Well, i had the clutch replaced around £200 with labor and parts. Then i had the breaks done, £50 a shoe then labor. Then the exhaust £100 and labor on top...

So in my first year of owning the car, i spent nearly its value in parts and labor.

Im looking more towards the S-Type, its a nice engine 1.8 and is lower insurance plus road tax.

I might even look into leasing it, cheaper on the pennies and can get a new one 2 years down the line

[SappyAppy]

Well, i had the clutch replaced around £200 with labor and parts. Then i had the breaks done, £50 a shoe then labor. Then the exhaust £100 and labor on top...

So in my first year of owning the car, i spent nearly its value in parts and labor.

Im looking more towards the S-Type, its a nice engine 1.8 and is lower insurance plus road tax.

I might even look into leasing it, cheaper on the pennies and can get a new one 2 years down the line

Not as bad as how much I needed to pay out in a year to keep my Renault Clio roadworthy. In a year I owned my old Clio (sold for £950 - 300 quid less than what I bought it for), I had to shell out around £1000 to fix stuff which kept going wrong. [thumbdown]