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Old 04-30-2007, 08:37 PM   #1
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When I lived in Indiana I worked with some people who would decorate their cars with this...



When I confronted them about it they claimed it was just a celebration of their cultural roots... their heritage so to speak.

But as James May put it... how many europeans decorate their cars with a nazi flag?
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:43 PM   #2
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When I lived in Indiana I worked with come people who would decorate their cars with this...



When I confronted them about it they claimed it was just a celebration of their cultural roots... their heritage so to speak.

But as James May put it... how many europeans decorate their cars with a nazi flag?
Where'd you live at in Indiana? I'm in Bloomington right now, btw.

Seeing as how Indiana was north of the Mason-Dixon line I can't understand the flaunting of the rebel flag in the Hoosier hills. Honestly, I think those people are confused as to what it really means.

I don't find it offensive, but I do find it ridiculous. A Confederate flag represents pro-slavery and secession, and personally, I feel a lot of people who present the flag are too stupid or ignorant to recognize that, or they do and are still just stupid and ignorant. [xmaslaugh]
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:44 PM   #3
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I don't really find it offensive. Not many things offend me. However, I find those very tacky and lose quite a bit of respect for the person who has one on their car. I saw a guy once that had that flag across the whole hood of his truck. I know you may be surprised by this, but the truck was a rusty POS, his wife was about 350 pounds, and he had a mullet. Also, it was at the Wal-Mart parking lot. I really wish I was making that up.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:45 PM   #4
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I lived in Angola... right up in the north east corner, however I worked in a town called Kendallville at a publishing company.

From what I gather many of the people who lived there traced their roots back to kentucky when many people moved north for jobs.
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:49 AM   #5
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Where'd you live at in Indiana? I'm in Bloomington right now, btw.

Seeing as how Indiana was north of the Mason-Dixon line I can't understand the flaunting of the rebel flag in the Hoosier hills. Honestly, I think those people are confused as to what it really means.

I don't find it offensive, but I do find it ridiculous. A Confederate flag represents pro-slavery and secession, and personally, I feel a lot of people who present the flag are too stupid or ignorant to recognize that, or they do and are still just stupid and ignorant. [xmaslaugh]
agreed with everything you said. I live in Michigan and I see people flying them even up here and I just have to shake my head and say WTF? to myself.

I think people in the northern states just don't understand what it actually means and think that it symbolizes generalized rebellion when in fact it signifies much much darker and more sinister ideals.
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:56 AM   #6
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that's a nazi flag?

never seen it before
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:04 AM   #7
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that's a nazi flag?

never seen it before
It's a Confederate flag.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:06 AM   #8
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agreed with everything you said. I live in Michigan and I see people flying them even up here and I just have to shake my head and say WTF? to myself.

I think people in the northern states just don't understand what it actually means and think that it symbolizes generalized rebellion when in fact it signifies much much darker and more sinister ideals.
I live in the UP of Michigan, about 5 hrs north of you, and I still see those around. Granted, there are probably a lot more hicks/rednecks up here than down there by you.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:15 AM   #9
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I don't find it offensive, but I fail to understand why I see people in Canada with Confederate flag decals on their vehicles.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:43 AM   #10
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Actually I honestly noticed a disturbing trend.

Typically the older and rustier the car... the bigger the decals and the hairier the occupant.

Why do they always have facial hair? even one of the guys I worked with... he was only 19 and had a beard noah would have been proud of
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:49 AM   #11
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I lived in Angola... right up in the north east corner, however I worked in a town called Kendallville at a publishing company.

From what I gather many of the people who lived there traced their roots back to kentucky when many people moved north for jobs.
Oh lord... Kendalltucky. My parents and grandmother live there. Its full of rednecks. Honestly to them the flag is more a symbol of 4 wheel drive rusty ford redneck deer hunting pride rather than anything to do with slavery. While to some the symbol may stand for slavery, to most Indiana rednecks it stands for tractor pulls and beer. I don't really understand their need for it. If you're going to put a flag on something, use the American Flag.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:09 AM   #12
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Isn't that the flag that's painted on the roof of the General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard? So it can't be that offensive.....at least it wasn't 30 years ago.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:23 AM   #13
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Isn't that the flag that's painted on the roof of the General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard? So it can't be that offensive.....at least it wasn't 30 years ago.
Yep, and IMO it would not be the same without it.


Yes what the flag stood for is stupid, but why does it offend you? If people want to have it on their car so what, it's not hurting anyone, and most of them don't even realize what it stood for.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:24 AM   #14
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Isn't that the flag that's painted on the roof of the General Lee in The Dukes of Hazzard? So it can't be that offensive.....at least it wasn't 30 years ago.
I guess you'd only find it offensive, if you were fully aware of its role in the past, but millions of people across the world, just associate it with the "dukes of hazard".

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Old 05-01-2007, 05:42 AM   #15
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It's the proud signatory of traitors! Be proud that your forefathers tried to destroy the United States!
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:25 AM   #16
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Flags and symbols, it's staggering the number of people that will proudly display something like this with absolutely no idea of what it represents. It's because they become pop-culture icons. Like the skull and cross-bones which used to represent piracy. Now most people do know that at least, but it's emblazoned on anything just in the name of fashion.

Our culture perverts the meaning of symbols and flags all the time. The confederate flag seems to now mean "I love my truck and I love my cousin". The St. George Cross just seems to represent the English football team. The monograph of Che Guevara seems to mean "hey I'm wearing a cool t-shirt". And then there's one of the greatest perversions of a symbol ever, the Nazi's use of the Swastika!
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:47 AM   #17
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Well, living in Alabama, I see it alot. But technically, that's not the Confederate Flag, this is the Confederate flag.

The other one is the battle flag. Anyways, do I find it offensive? Depends who's flying it and for what reason. If it's flying with the other 9 odd flags of the nations that controlled the Mobile areas, than no. But if some guy is driving it around in the bed of a truck, than yeah. But for kicks and giggles, does a Brition find the American flag offensive? (dumb question, since they probably do, but for different reasons, but you know what I'm trying to say.)
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:44 AM   #18
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When I lived in Indiana I worked with some people who would decorate their cars with this...



When I confronted them about it they claimed it was just a celebration of their cultural roots... their heritage so to speak.

But as James May put it... how many Europeans decorate their cars with a nazi flag?
True, but not all Europeans have have german ancestry. In the south there is a good chance that if you throw a rock, 9 out of 10 people you hit are going to have ancestors from the south. I personally don't find it offensive. To me it seems that people take things way to seriously, always dive off the deep end when looking at things. The reason they put up that flag may not be the reason that people are getting mad over.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:37 AM   #19
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But for kicks and giggles, does a Brition find the American flag offensive? (dumb question, since they probably do, but for different reasons, but you know what I'm trying to say.)
Erh, no. Why would we?
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:44 AM   #20
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I do not find it offensive in any way.

The flag has become a symbol of ones Southerness. Just like how you will hear the rappers and gansters calling each other ******. ****** does not mean the same thing to them it orignally did. It's just a word used to relate to their hoodness.

Of couse the flag could be used as a symbol of slavery if that's what the bearer means, but then calling someone ****** could also be used in a context that would be unacceptable.

Besides, this is a free country. Who cares if people want to express their freedom with that flag? Homosexuals like to flaunt their gayness in parades and such, why wouldn't some redneck want to flaunt his redneckness in their car?
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