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Old 07-10-2012, 06:47 AM   #1
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Default Texas GOP rejects ‘critical thinking’ skills. Really.
This is on the back of Louisiana's GOP governor and state legislature passing a law allowing public money to be used to send students to non-accredited religious "schools" which teach things like evolution is a hoax, the loch ness monster is real, people used to ride dinosaurs, Noah's ark was real, and other such dribble. To add stupidity to the :doh!: the state GOP is now shocked and appalled that Muslim groups also want state funding for their religious schools. It's like these dumb asses don't even understand the consequences of their actions... Like they're lacking critical thinking skills or something.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:01 AM   #2
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What is the difference between critical thinking and thinking?
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:06 AM   #3
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I see - so critical thinking means you doubt the legitimacy of your thoughts as you think them, while thinking just means you are deluding yourself.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:17 AM   #4
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It looks like they're objecting to the teaching of "critical thinking skills" rather than critical thinking. And of course as was pointed out by the site you linked to, critical thinking can't really be taught.
No, they said one researcher wrote an article back in 2007 saying public schools have not been very successful teaching critical thinking skills and he there for postulated that critical thinking might not be a skill easily taught. Then again it could be they've been using the wrong approach or have not been emphasizing it enough. BTW the definition (also from the article) of critical thinking skills is also pretty good:

Critical thinking consists of seeing both sides of an issue, being open to new evidence that disconfirms your ideas, reasoning dispassionately, demanding that claims be backed by evidence, deducing and inferring conclusions from available facts, solving problems, and so forth. Then too, there are specific types of critical thinking that are characteristic of different subject matter: That’s what we mean when we refer to “thinking like a scientist” or “thinking like a historian.”
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:22 AM   #5
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Anyway, here's the in context portion of the platform, which you and liberal blogs did not bother to quote because it completely undermines your line of attack.



It might help to know that "mastery learning" is a technical term for a controversial method of teaching that is often renamed "critical thinking" to appease critics.

Your second stupid post about the Louisiana GOP, which at least is not plagiarized like the OP, is presumably just as misleading since there is no sourcing at all for it.
Suck it, DL used by Kuci and mini-Kuci:
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:24 AM   #6
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What is the difference between critical thinking and thinking?
One thing is sure and that is both involve challenging "fixed beliefs" and "parental authority" if the parents are indoctrinating kids with nonsense. Critical thinking goes against indoctrination and refusing to challenge fixed beliefs with evidence. The state GOP is against both of those no matter how you spin it.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:32 AM   #7
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Wow, really, Mini-Kuci? That is your line? I didn't quote a whole page of garbage (which BTW I already linked too) and instead just took out the germaine parts which deal directly with what we are talking about? That's just fail, dude. Go stick your head in one of the 14 toilets in your parents house.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:35 AM   #8
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1624643.html

Public funds for schools that teach the Loch Ness Monster is real? Gee, that is probably just not a good idea.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:39 AM   #9
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If you want to talk about the Jindal bill, and be fair about it, you should also mention that the vouchers target only impoverished students who are attending a failing public school, and gives them the option to attend any number of private schools --- which in Louisiana are often far better than the public ones. I am sorry you or the Huffington Post found an example of a bad private school that is eligible for one of these vouchers, but it would be bizarre for a student to use one of those vouchers to go to an even worse school than the one they attend, wouldn't it? Why do you distrust and hate low income Louisianians? Do you want them to fail?
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:46 AM   #10
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Also from the GOP platform:

Bilingual Education – We encourage non-English speaking students to transition to English within three years. RACISTS !!! MEXICAN HATING ANTHONY WEINER FRAMERZ!! :MAD: :PISSED:OFF ::HUFFINGTONPOST:
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:17 AM   #11
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Some real winners in the platform:

Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) - We oppose this act through which the federal government would coerce religious business owners and employees to violate their own beliefs and principles by affirming what they consider to be sinful and sexually immoral behavior.

Family and Defense of Marriage ― We support the definition of marriage as a God-ordained, legal and moral commitment only between a natural man and a natural woman, which is the foundational unit of a healthy society, and we oppose the assault on marriage by judicial activists. We call on the President and Congress to take immediate action to defend the sanctity of marriage. We are resolute that Congress exercise authority under the United States Constitution, and pass legislation withholding jurisdiction from the Federal Courts in cases involving family law, especially any changes in the definition of marriage. We further call on Congress to pass and the state legislatures to ratify a marriage amendment declaring that marriage in the United States shall consist of and be recognized only as the union of a natural man and a natural woman. Neither the United States nor any state shall recognize or grant to any unmarried person the legal rights or status of a spouse. We oppose the recognition of and granting of benefits to people who represent themselves as domestic partners without being legally married. We advocate the repeal of laws that place an unfair tax burden on families. We call upon Congress to completely remove the marriage penalty in the tax code, whereby a married couple receives a smaller standard deduction than their unmarried counterparts living together. The primary family unit consists of those related by blood, heterosexual marriage, or adoption. The family is responsible for its own welfare, education, moral training, conduct, and property.

Homosexuality ― We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans.
Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, in public policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.
Pornography ― We encourage the enforcement of laws regarding all forms of pornography, because pornography is detrimental to the fabric of society.

Family Values ― We support the affirmation of traditional Judeo-Christian family values and oppose the continued assault on those values.

Supporting Motherhood ― We strongly support women who choose to devote their lives to their families and raising their children. We recognize their sacrifice and deplore the liberal assault on the family.

RU 486 - We urge the FDA to rescind approval of the physically dangerous RU-486 and oppose limiting the manufacturers’ and distributors’ liability.

Morning After Pill - We oppose sale and use of the dangerous “Morning After Pill.”

Basic Standards – We favor improving the quality of education for all students, including those with special needs. We support a return to the traditional basics of reading, writing, arithmetic, and citizenship with sufficient discipline to ensure learning and quality educational assessment.

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
Remember folks, if someone in the GOP tells you they are for small government, they are lying through their teeth.

Also: 500 Quatloos to the person who IDs the redundant statements in this drag of platform points.
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:12 AM   #12
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You DOUCHE.
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:22 AM   #13
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The whole "government dictating the bedroom lifestyle of consenting adults" thing. So having the government pay for your MAP is 'getting the government out of the bedroom'?

Seems to me that the first priority you have is making sure the government gets IN, not OUT of the bedroom.
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:38 AM   #14
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What are you talking about?

We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior How can this possibly be read to encourage government intervention in people's private lives? If anything, as Ben said, it's encouraging the opposite.

This line of thinking is really perverting the Democratic party --- this notion that, by failing to go out of its way to give special benefits to gays/women/etc the GOP is somehow actively waging a "war" on them. As far as I can tell you are the first retard to claim this war = "big government" though.

We encourage the enforcement of laws regarding all forms of pornography, because pornography is detrimental to the fabric of society. This is the only line in the entire part you quoted earlier that could be considered intrusive, but all it really says is "existing laws against minors/children being in porn should be enforced."
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:08 PM   #15
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What "special status" is being granted to the Gays that the GOP is so worried about? Uh, marriage Correct.

Which is so vaguely worded that for all we know it's tacit support for giving a pass to assault and battery so long as the victim is a queer. Okay. Remind me again, its the Republicans who are disingenuous and "lying through their teeth," right?

so why doesn't it use those specific words? Because they wanted to also condemn pornography generally, but not criminalize it.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:22 PM   #16
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Which is so vaguely worded that for all we know it's tacit support for giving a pass to assault and battery so long as the victim is a queer.
Only if you beat them up religiously.

ACK!
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:38 PM   #17
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Give progressives another 50 years or so and it will become necessary to include.

YOURE A DOUCHE!
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #18
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Man, you just enjoy willfully ignoring the most obvious stuff, huh?



And by the way, the Texas GOP is so stupid that they think that RU 486 and the MAP are two different things.
RU 486 is mifepristone; the MAP is either levonorgestrol or ulipristal acetate. They work by different pathways, and have different overall effects.

I guess that makes you so stupid that you think that RU 486 and the MAP are not two different things.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:59 AM   #19
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RU 486 is mifepristone; the MAP is either levonorgestrol or ulipristal acetate. They work by different pathways, and have different overall effects.

I guess that makes you so stupid that you think that RU 486 and the MAP are not two different things.
Did you know that if you wiki "Morning after pill" it takes you straight to the RU 486 entry in the "emergency contraceptives" article?
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:18 AM   #20
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No.
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