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**Amirmsheesk** · 08-19-2011, 05:53 PM

It's gonna be hard work to make a movie just as good as the original, but certainly worth a try.

I could do it with two hours, a flip cam and a black light machine.

**Theateetetuig** · 08-19-2011, 08:19 PM

Apparently, he's not a fan...

**soSldI4i** · 08-19-2011, 08:36 PM

Why has no one harnessed the power of Philip K. Dick spinning in his grave yet? With all the movies butchering his acid trips in novel form...

**Avaindimik** · 08-19-2011, 08:49 PM

I've always been amazed at the critical acclaim given that movie. I'm a big SF fan but never considered the movie "great" by any standards. For me, it was interesting but just above average. I've watched it a few more times to see if I had missed something, but I hadn't.

I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author.

**RaicickKida** · 08-19-2011, 09:14 PM

I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author.

You may have something there. It was one of the first movies that was that gritty but I had read many books that showed a darker future so I probably viewed it differently.

**alias** · 08-19-2011, 09:22 PM

I think it was the first "cyberpunk" movie

**raskrutkaseo** · 08-19-2011, 09:25 PM

Blade Runner is a beautiful film.

Avatar was also a beautiful film but that didn't stop it from being a pile of crap.

**Rememavotscam** · 08-19-2011, 09:34 PM

It all depends on what you consider success. If making obscene amounts of money is success, he's quite successful.

**Ingeborga** · 08-19-2011, 09:52 PM

Nah, that would be Alien. Yeah, I know that it was mostly in a spaceship, but it was nowhere like the clean star trek or for that matter moonbase alpha.

Spaceships are a different trope, I think. IIRC, Han Solo's ship wasn't an operating theory either.

P.S. Have I told you that H.R. Giger totally looks like an old lesbian?

**Hofonom** · 08-19-2011, 10:39 PM

You may have something there. It was one of the first movies that was that gritty but I had read many books that showed a darker future so I probably viewed it differently.

Soylent Green! talk about hitting a close call on the future.

**viagraman** · 08-20-2011, 04:17 AM

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, but people who do not "get" and/or enjoy Blade Runner are held in particularly high esteem in Casa del Guynemer.

**Preegovesem** · 08-20-2011, 04:28 AM

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, but people who do not "get" and/or enjoy Blade Runner are held in particularly high esteem in Casa del Guynemer.

Did you leave out a negative in this sentence or do you agree with me that the movie is crap?

**HilaryNidierer** · 08-20-2011, 06:21 AM

With the right writer(s), director, and actors in that order I am sure it can be a great movie at many budget points.
Nominees
Writer - Charlie Kaufman, David S. Goyer, Christopher Nolan, Jonathan Nolan, Wong Kar-Wai
Director - George Clooney, Michael Gondry, Tony Scott, Ridley Scott, David Fincher, Wong Kar Wai, Danny Boyle, Christopher Nolan

And Joel McHale in the Title role!!!!!! He would also be good in a remake of Fletch.

ACK!

**radikal** · 08-20-2011, 06:38 AM

The original was borrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnggggggggg!!!!!!!!!

ACK!

**DoctorDeryOne** · 08-20-2011, 07:21 AM

Seriously not sure if trolled.

**ElisasAUG** · 08-20-2011, 05:31 PM

I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author.

This may be why I'm not all super awed by Tolkien (my verdict of Tolkien: good creator of new worlds, the books were good, nothing to get ridiculously excited about though).

I do like me some Blade Runner though

Remember, also, that Blade Runner was one of the first mainstream movies to deal with what is human.

**Adeniinteme** · 08-20-2011, 09:50 PM

Why has no one harnessed the power of Philip K. Dick spinning in his grave yet? With all the movies butchering his acid trips in novel form...

I only watched it within the last 2 yrs. As a huge Sf fan I have to agree with you. Howver, what I like about is that it tries to tell a story rather than dazzle with special effects.

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Avaindimik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	I've always been amazed at the critical acclaim given that movie. I'm a big SF fan but never considered the movie "great" by any standards. For me, it was interesting but just above average. I've watched it a few more times to see if I had missed something, but I hadn't. I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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RaicickKida Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 388 Senior Member	I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author. You may have something there. It was one of the first movies that was that gritty but I had read many books that showed a darker future so I probably viewed it differently. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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alias Join Date Oct 2005 Age 76 Posts 397 Senior Member	I think it was the first "cyberpunk" movie Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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raskrutkaseo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 376 Senior Member	Blade Runner is a beautiful film. Avatar was also a beautiful film but that didn't stop it from being a pile of crap. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Rememavotscam Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	It all depends on what you consider success. If making obscene amounts of money is success, he's quite successful. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Ingeborga Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	Nah, that would be Alien. Yeah, I know that it was mostly in a spaceship, but it was nowhere like the clean star trek or for that matter moonbase alpha. Spaceships are a different trope, I think. IIRC, Han Solo's ship wasn't an operating theory either. P.S. Have I told you that H.R. Giger totally looks like an old lesbian? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Hofonom Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 364 Senior Member	You may have something there. It was one of the first movies that was that gritty but I had read many books that showed a darker future so I probably viewed it differently. Soylent Green! talk about hitting a close call on the future. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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viagraman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, but people who do not "get" and/or enjoy Blade Runner are held in particularly high esteem in Casa del Guynemer. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Preegovesem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, but people who do not "get" and/or enjoy Blade Runner are held in particularly high esteem in Casa del Guynemer. Did you leave out a negative in this sentence or do you agree with me that the movie is crap? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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HilaryNidierer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 424 Senior Member	With the right writer(s), director, and actors in that order I am sure it can be a great movie at many budget points. Nominees Writer - Charlie Kaufman, David S. Goyer, Christopher Nolan, Jonathan Nolan, Wong Kar-Wai Director - George Clooney, Michael Gondry, Tony Scott, Ridley Scott, David Fincher, Wong Kar Wai, Danny Boyle, Christopher Nolan And Joel McHale in the Title role!!!!!! He would also be good in a remake of Fletch. ACK! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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radikal Join Date Oct 2005 Age 54 Posts 4,523 Senior Member	The original was borrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnggggggggg!!!!!!!!! ACK! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ElisasAUG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 583 Senior Member	I think it started the whole "the future is dark and gritty and neony" aesthetic. People who read Tolkien after more modern fantasy novels also do not understand why so many laud it as a great fantasy author. This may be why I'm not all super awed by Tolkien (my verdict of Tolkien: good creator of new worlds, the books were good, nothing to get ridiculously excited about though). I do like me some Blade Runner though Remember, also, that Blade Runner was one of the first mainstream movies to deal with what is human. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Adeniinteme Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 591 Senior Member	Why has no one harnessed the power of Philip K. Dick spinning in his grave yet? With all the movies butchering his acid trips in novel form... I only watched it within the last 2 yrs. As a huge Sf fan I have to agree with you. Howver, what I like about is that it tries to tell a story rather than dazzle with special effects. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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