[gluckmeea]

Sikhs are awesome. They're like the Scottish of India.

[CHEAPCIALISFORYOU]

The thing that gets me is all the comments on the article and the video on youtube about ragheads, Islam, building a mosque near Ground Zero, and nuking the Middle East.

Are people really that stupid?

[OrefZorremn]

The Scottish of Nepal

[EmpaccalGah]

Yes.

But it takes a second-order of ignorance... intentional ignorance. All the articles specifically say "Sikh". They don't say Muslim. They say Sikh. Where are they getting Muslim from? You'd think the fact that they have two different names would clue them in that Sikh and Muslim are not the same.

[Skete]

Most people are just dumb. The average tard on the street probably derives an understanding of Indian people from Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Mola Ram from the Temple of Doom.

Brown person + turban = terrist.

Yeah but Indians are brown. Arabs are white. So how does that make sense?

[giftbestcom]

And Arabs don't even wear anything that looks like a Sikh turban. When you think of Arab head-gear in pop culture, you're talking taqiyahs, kefiyahs, fezes, and whatever they're called... what the Gulf Arabs wear. They all look much different than Sikh turbans.

Plus Rastas wear turbans.



MUST BE MUSLIMS!

[Kitdowstyhodo]

Some Syrians and even Lebanese are pretty damn white though most of them are in a grey area of being partially or mostly white but not entirely, not that it really matters. I had more to say about how stupid the folks making the comments on that other website were but the fear of being on the same side as Al made me stay silent.

[DrBrightonone]

Does Bush look like a different race than Mubarak or the Egyptians behind them?



Same exact complexion to me.

Racists need to make up their minds.

Is White about skin complexion or about being non-Spanish Western European descent and Christian?

[flienianO]

rag head

[avappyboalt]

19th century white supremacist racial classification:

Huxley's map of racial categories from On the Geographical Distribution of the Chief Modifications of Mankind (1870).



Red is Nordic (Xanthocroi to Huxley). Pink is Mediterranean (Melanochroi). The overlap is overlap between the two groups.


Meyers Blitz-Lexikon, a German encyclopedia published in Leipzig in 1932 presents the eight subtypes of Europaid:



What's the deal? When did Arabs lose white status? Arabs were white during the heydey of white supremacy!

[enentique]

No one cares about the census except for Bureaucrats.

Basically, the original social construct of the "white race" that emerged in the enlightenment never included Southern Europeans, Arabs, or non-Christians for that matter. Before the enlightenment and colonization, there was no concept of an encompassing white race or even black race. People were divided intro tribes and nations.

While, what constitutes being white has been expanded to include southern Europeans and Eastern Europeans, Arabs still seem to be regarded as an "other" even today and its only been reinforced by the media and the wars in Iraq and Libya. Sorry dude, Arabs never had the status of being 'white' and still don't to the average person on the street. It may change in the future.

Explain my above post then.

[paralelogram]

I just did. I'm saying that the average person isn't reading these 80 year old ethnographic studies by German racialists and to the average person, Arabs aren't considered white because they seem so culturally and religiously different.

[GenManagerS]

What are the Gurkhas then?

The Gurkhas are a class all to their own.

[TerriLS]

Explain my above post then.

Your post above doesn't show that Arabs were ever considered white. Bedouins and Afghans aren't Arabs.

[gregmcal]

Only Americans.

Paki?

[IntinyBut]

Alby, why are you so keen on constantly posting stupid pictures no one cares about from wikipedia?

Those stupid pictures prove my point. 19th and early 20th century white supremacists categorized Arabs as white.

[Klissineopar]

Are you sure the concept of white was not invented first by the Spaniards who were the first ones to have a global empire?

Yeah but those same Spaniards no longer have white status in the USA. Like I said, white apparently means Non-Spanish Western European Christians.

[mypharmalife]

Those stupid pictures prove my point. 19th and early 20th century white supremacists categorized Arabs as white.

White supremacists are inconsistent??? Please keep posting more evidence of this, I'm sure somebody gives a ****!!!!!

[Misespimb]

Are you sure the concept of white was not invented first by the Spaniards who were the first ones to have a global empire?

Hmmm, could be but I'm not familiar with Spanish history. When did the Spaniards start implementing that absurd racial hierarchy system with the hundreds of categories?

[wJswn5l3]

Apparently yes.

http://arabamericanhistory.org/archi...llow-race.html

The following article was published in the Los Angeles Herald, November 5, 1909:
"Assured, temporarily at least, that the mantle of citizenship placed on their shoulders by Uncle Sam’s naturalization officers will not be removed, 17,000 Syrians scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land will breathe easier when they hear of the decision rendered yesterday by Judge Hutton of the superior court, to whom the first challenge to reach the test stage was submitted a month ago. Judge Hutton holds that Syrians are eligible to citizenship, and if a different construction is to be placed on the meaning of the law it is for Congress to so declare. The test case was made on the application of George Shishim of Venice, Los Angeles County, California, for citizenship papers by Fred Jones, naturalization examiner, who, acting in accordance with instructions from Washington, opposed the application on the ground that Syrians belonged to the Mongolian race and should therefore be excluded. Judge Hutton’s decision, which has been eagerly watched for in all parts of the country, was as follows:

‘This is an application by one George Shishim, a Syrian, to be admitted to citizenship. The federal government, acting through the department of justice, objects to his admission, basing its objection on the sole ground that he is not a member of the white race in contemplation of section 2169 of the revised statutes of the United States.

‘The court has listened to arguments of counsel representing the Department of Justice and counsel representing applicant and various friends of the cause who have appeared in the case, and has read their briefs with much care and great interest. If this were a new question, I might agree with the government, but as it is by no means new. I am convinced that this court would not be justified in resolving a question of such doubtful construction contradictory to the rulings of other courts throughout the United States that have for many years admitted to full citizenship thousands of Syrians in the same position as applicant at bar. The courts of this nation, both state and federal, have, whenever called upon for more than a century, construed the term "white persons," or members of the white race, to include Syrians. If at this late date a different construction is to be placed upon the meaning of this very doubtful statute Congress should so declare. The objection of the government is therefore overruled.’

"Shishim, with his attorney, Byron Hanna, and a number of Syrian friends were in the courtroom when the decision was read. He had already shown himself qualified for citizenship in other respects and the oath of allegiance was administered. So yeah Arabs were white and had citizenship rights, which were validated in that 1909 court ruling, which did not seek to contradict previous case law.