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Old 06-06-2011, 09:12 PM   #21
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I know that's the theory, I just think that it's going to be/already is foolish when you can combine the email address that came with that password with a database scraped from Facebook and answer most of the trivial questions they ask.
My sites allow you to create your own questions, which seems to solve that criticism, no?

Plus, things like my first job and my grandmother's maiden name aren't easily discovered via google.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:42 PM   #22
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"computer processing speed grows exponentially; news at 11"

If something takes a desktop PC days to crack now, it will take a desktop PC minutes before the decade's out anyway.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:04 PM   #23
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"computer processing speed grows exponentially; news at 11"
I figure the article is written more for those who should know better but don't - for example, my prior bank limited me to an 8-character alphanumeric password (no special characters allowed), which is inexcusable.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:26 PM   #24
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That statement is logically incoherent.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:10 AM   #25
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Some things you might have meant:
It was quite clear what I meant to anyone with social intelligence.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:55 AM   #26
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People use passwords less than 24 characters?
I generally go 20, but maybe I'll increase that.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:48 AM   #27
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Asher, Kuci wasn't lacking social intelligence, you were just wrong. There are plenty of times when he's needlessly pedantic, in this case you actually said something untrue.
No, you also lack the same social intelligence.

You both don't comprehend the importance of context. When people talk about computers increasing in speed exponentially, they're referring to a steady, systematic increase in computational speed roughly corresponding to Moore's Law. They are not referring to disruptive technologies like GPUs which are rather instantaneously many orders of magnitude faster than even the fastest CPUs at some tasks, which is the point of this article and of my comment.

My comment was about the GPUs being far faster than the "computational speed is growing exponential" assumption that is commonly associated with (1) CPU speed, (2) Moore's Law.

Go ahead and plot the performance in FLOPS of CPUs vs GPUs to understand my point if you still don't get it.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:28 AM   #28
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This is far more than exponentially.

If you meant to say that the growth is discontinuous then you should have said this...
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:31 AM   #29
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FWIW I don't see why the concept is so hard. "Exponentially" implies being part of a function and a rate of increase, it implies some sort of pattern. The GPU-powered increase is not part of that historical function.

The increase seen for these types of computations on the GPU is well in excess of what is normally considered part of the exponential growth of processing power, which is commonly associated with Moore's Law (doubling transistor density in 24 months --> doubling CPU power in 24 months).
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:48 AM   #30
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I truly hate this practice. It's like the password recovery options on most sites that only give you a handful of generic questions that could be easily guessed based on publicly known data. I stopped using a bank not long ago because they did this and the hardest question they could come up with was "what was your high school mascot?".
Uhmmm, you use a bullshit answer that nobody could ever guess?

'What was your favourite pet?'

Answer: Gwar rules the universe.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:33 AM   #31
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It was quite clear what I meant to anyone with social intelligence.
True.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:13 PM   #32
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Typical Poly though isn't it. An interesting debate ruined as it turns into an intensive debate of some trivial word in the middle of a sentence somewhere.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:34 PM   #33
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #34
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So true.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:02 PM   #35
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Password management in large corporations is already retarded as it is. When this is disseminated through those workshops security consultants usually attend, it will finally become unbearable and ridiculous. Our Austrian overlords have already insisted ALL password should be changed on the monthly basis and should contain a capital letter, a digit and a special symbol. NO ONE will come up with a unique password every month, especially when you have to connect to five Oracle DBs that of course do not use AD. I am not going to invent eight passwords every month (1 for AD, 1 for the new system, 1 for the old system and 5 DBs). I use 1qaz!QAZ technique for my AD password and because neither Oracle nor both of our systems allow punctuation, use a simple incremental scheme for all of them. And yes, I keep these passwords in a text file in My Documents.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:15 PM   #36
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Are you referring to that software (Algodoo, which we didn't write but we're partners with them), or the boards themselves?
The software, she already has an interactive whiteboard and until it breaks no one would even think of a replacement.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:38 PM   #37
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Wonderful. An excellent idea that Joe User will have absolutely no problem with, ever. Why should I have to jump through hoops to make my money and reputation secure?
Fixed.
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