[hiedeemom]

This is just a woefully ignorant statement, I am surprised Zoolook let you get away with that.

He's right on this occasion. They were pumped up prior going public; and, in hindsight, was a failure [to those who invested].

[KongoSan]

He's right on this occasion. They were pumped up prior going public; and, in hindsight, was a failure [to those who invested].

I understand, generally, what happened. My issue is with putting the blame on "they"; it is non-information.

They could raise the stock prices back to normal today. They can make it bottom out. They can kill you in your sleep.

I have provided nothing with those statements.

[nickayary]

Yeah, very much so.

[attishina]

He's right on this occasion. They were pumped up prior going public; and, in hindsight, was a failure [to those who invested].

The point is, it was no different from any other IPO with the exception of the sheer size. Facebook (and more recently Twitter) are under enormous pressure now to turn profits; big profits. So they're going to misbehave. the same way factories and prospectors misbehaved for centuries before we elected people to keep them in check.

It's one reason I like LinkedIn - I pay my $99 a year, I know what I am getting because I pay for it. FB, Google, Twatter and the others, I know I'm getting screwed. I'm getting screwed as a user, an investor and as anyone else who wants to interact online and gets guided to 'sign up with Facebook'. I am surprised FM hasn't pulled that one for its 23 users.

[unishisse]

It's one reason I like LinkedIn - I pay my $99 a year, I know what I am getting because I pay for it. FB, Google, Twatter and the others, I know I'm getting screwed.

I wouldn't believe a second that my data is any safer with LinkedIn.

Passwords certainly weren't

[fuslkdhfma]

Zoo,

Please add Apple to that list because...



...they are probably the worst offenders of artificial limitations and one-way compatibility.

Why do you also forget mention Apple in your reckless decimation of the Orwellian state of IT?

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I wouldn't believe a second that my data is any safer with LinkedIn.

Passwords certainly weren't

They did not profit off of stolen passwords; this is not a discussion about data security.

[tarmpriopay]

I wouldn't believe a second that my data is any safer with LinkedIn.

Passwords certainly weren't

Fair point - but their business model is transparent. You're on there to get noticed professionally, you want your profile to be sold to recruitment companies. It's symbiotic.

99.9999% of people on Facebook just want to bore the world with their photos and ramblings, not have their childhood memories be used for marketing in 10 years time.

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Zoo,

Please add Apple to that list because...



...they are probably the worst offenders of artificial limitations and one-way compatibility.

Why do you also forget mention Apple in your reckless decimation of the Orwellian state of IT?

Watch this - watch all of it.

[Iphone]

Watch this - watch all of it.

What is it? No YouTube at work and I have not paid Apple to give my iPhone service in this building yet.

[artenotreah]

What is it? No YouTube at work and I have not paid Apple to give my iPhone service in this building yet.

OK, watch it at home then. It's Steve Jobs on privacy. His best comment is "privacy means the user knows what they're signing up for, in plain English and repeatedly. Ask them, ask them every time, make them tell you to stop asking them if they get tired of it".

The other point he makes is about location services on the iPhone, where apps have to call Apple's services to alert the user that their data is being accessed or location is being used - again, every single time (unless you say so specifically) and even then you get an icon on the phone telling you when your data or location is being used by the app.

That is a long way from what Google or Facebook do. It's old fashioned, but Apple believes this is what people want. I happen to agree, others may not.

[valiumcheapll]

Two questions come immediately to mind:

1. Have you used an Android phone?
2. Have you read Apple's License agreement?

[WUlcN1Rz]

The password requirements, even when no CC/DC has been associated with the account, infuriate me. The requirement to enter your password after xx seconds, with no option to set the delay, infuriate me, and I have been asked whether I can change it several times.

[deethythitoth]

This is just a woefully ignorant statement, I am surprised Zoolook let you get away with that.

Seriously man, ditch the Info Wars and get a grip on reality.

Just because I didn't specify who they were, doesn't make it a bullshit statement. I don't know names and I don't care, but a false value was put on a point to float them at.

If you weren't so ignorent you'd know that a lot of what is on infowars is reality. The only issue with the website and ones like it is that they can speculate quite a lot. But at least it's speculation based on fact.

[Hofonom]

Two questions come immediately to mind:

1. Have you used an Android phone?
2. Have you read Apple's License agreement?

Yes and no respectively. But I do know the reason Apple wasn't able to sign on the movie studios, TV studios and publishers as quickly as Amazon and Google, is because they refused those companies access to customer data.

Aren't all licensing agreements full of CYA's? I'd imagine Apple's is 10x worse than anyone else's.

[r9tbayfC]

If you weren't so ignorent you'd know that a lot of what is on infowars is reality. The only issue with the website and ones like it is that they can speculate quite a lot. But at least it's speculation based on fact.

I actually had to hold my desk to keep from falling back in my chair.

I have to be imagining this. I do not have the energy to respond.

[strongjannabiz]

Fair point - but their business model is transparent. You're on there to get noticed professionally, you want your profile to be sold to recruitment companies. It's symbiotic.

99.9999% of people on Facebook just want to bore the world with their photos and ramblings, not have their childhood memories be used for marketing in 10 years time.

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Watch this - watch all of it.

What he talks about in that video is exactly what google does though with Android. Constantly warning you about what of your personal information is going to be used.

[N95FzmMw]

What he talks about in that video is exactly what google does though with Android. Constantly warning you about what of your personal information is going to be used.

Exactly why I asked him if he ever used an Android phone.

[ovenco]

Exactly why I asked him if he ever used an Android phone.

There are a lot of misconceptions about these things and both Apple and Android are terrible with using your personal data (I am sure you blindly agreed to these terms on several apps, no matter what platform you use) - as it only tells you what sort of data it can access, not what it's going to be used for.

Still, when it comes to intrusions into your privacy, facebook takes the cake. Facial recognition on pictures, turned out by default and similar things are scary as hell.

[videolkif]

What he talks about in that video is exactly what google does though with Android. Constantly warning you about what of your personal information is going to be used.

As of when, Match 1st 2012? Wasn't that because of a California privacy law, or was it because Google got caught red-handed collecting user data? I don't remember my router asking permission when the Google car drove past and told it my IP address and what I was doing at the time.

Google's privacy policy has been castigated by virtually everyone worth listening to, and basically states "your data will be used to make us money" (with the exception of Google Wallet and Chrome).

Great!

[Ladbarbastirm]

I actually had to hold my desk to keep from falling back in my chair.

I have to be imagining this. I do not have the energy to respond.

So you're the ignorant one then.

Go to http://www.infowars.com/ and name any headline that's rubbish.

[baskentt]

So you're the ignorant one then.

Go to http://www.infowars.com/ and name any headline that's rubbish.

You have got to be joking?