[BEyng6hj]

You can call me whatever you want for that kind of money. I'd never go seek out someone just because they had money, but if I was married to someone who promised to give me $50 million just to stick around 2 more years, I'd probably do it.

I'm not calling you stupid if you wouldn't, but I kind of am.

You lawyers are the reason I will never marry again.

What's the point? You work and make a life and family and build a nest. Then find out you dont' get along, then the person who put most of the finances into the thing gets nailed to a cross and treated like some kind of criminal. Every divorced guy I know treats women like gold-digging whores.

Can't really argue with them.

One guy I know has to pay 20 grand in alimony for 10 years or until his wife remarries.

What are the chances she remarries?

and give up that coin for just sitting on her ass and eat bon bons?

Marriage sucks, divorces sucks worse, and lawyers make a killing while people lives fall apart.

Nothing personal. Howya doin?

[lLianneForbess]

I dont think I'm entitled to anything dealing with tiger.

I think that if he was a truly good person, it would show more then having a charity and a building in your name.

To me there's a difference between having your name on a building and caring for people. Everything we've seen from tiger is what you'd expect which is what he's given us. He's played the role.

If you want me to believe he means it, show me something other then what I'd expect. Do I expect rich people to donate to charity? Sure, I believe that most people are inherently good and want to help others. Did I expect kid rock to read a newspaper about a pizza guy that got jumped and pay for his medical bills? No, that makes me believe that he cares more then just having his name on a building so people can see that he's a "good" person. I'm not asking for tiger to do that and say hey look what I did. I'm just asking for proof that he's done other then whats expected.

What I've said all along is that Tiger has constructed an image to make money. Doing the norm and donating roughly 5% of a Billion dollars on the surface makes it look like he cares. He's giving millions and making Billions. Any agent, pr rep, accountant, or caddy can make you look like you care.

Everybody has a right to make a living and in a capitalistic society, you have a right to as big of a slice of pie as you want. I don't disagree with that. If Tiger truly cared about kids, people, whatever, he wouldnt be out wrecking his family life while selling us this image of a clean wholesome guy and nailing anything that moves. That I don't agree with.

People can make mistakes and while it is human to err, repeated offenses are nowhere near mistakes or humane.

If he wants me to buy into tiger again, Eldrick, better come out and man up.

Tiger is a GREAT golfer. A black man in a white man's sport.

Tiger didn't make Tiger look like a wholesome guy. The media did.

We always saw him yelling at fans, and abrasive towards most of the other pro golfers for years. Most of the PGA vets don't like Tiger at all. He's always been an ass, but the media has always portrayed him as something different.

He always tried to live a private life, and until now, he succeeded. That doesn't mean he was trying to show he was perfect. It was moreso that he didn't want to be bothered. He fired people in his inner circle over the years if they talked about Tiger behind the scenes.

Sponsors threw money his way b/c he is the face of golf, and the most recognizable athlete in the world right now.

Its not any different than Michael Jordan, Shaq, Bo Jackson, and many others over the years.

Just b/c you see someone act a certain way on camera, doesn't mean that is their true persona.

Also, what makes you think that Tiger does broadcast everything he does? Maybe he is geniune, maybe he isn't, but there's no way of knowing just how much time and money he's put into everything if he has been so private, and noone has talked on his behalf until all these mistresses came out, realizing they could get paid for a story.

I'm not condoning Tiger, or even defending him really, but you seem to take a hardline stance as if you know the man.

None of us do, so we shouldn't jump to conclusions if we don't have all the facts.

What we do know is Tiger is a great golfer, has made a lot of people rich, and completely tore apart his family by repeatedly fucking around on his wife.

Beyond that, its pure speculation.

[11Woxsepmoomo]

Michael Jordan

... was a peice of shit, selfish son of a bitch iirc.

[Enjoymms]

Tiger is a GREAT golfer. A black man in a white man's sport.

Tiger didn't make Tiger look like a wholesome guy. The media did.

We always saw him yelling at fans, and abrasive towards most of the other pro golfers for years. Most of the PGA vets don't like Tiger at all. He's always been an ass, but the media has always portrayed him as something different.

He always tried to live a private life, and until now, he succeeded. That doesn't mean he was trying to show he was perfect. It was moreso that he didn't want to be bothered. He fired people in his inner circle over the years if they talked about Tiger behind the scenes.

Sponsors threw money his way b/c he is the face of golf, and the most recognizable athlete in the world right now.

Its not any different than Michael Jordan, Shaq, Bo Jackson, and many others over the years.

Just b/c you see someone act a certain way on camera, doesn't mean that is their true persona.

Also, what makes you think that Tiger does broadcast everything he does? Maybe he is geniune, maybe he isn't, but there's no way of knowing just how much time and money he's put into everything if he has been so private, and noone has talked on his behalf until all these mistresses came out, realizing they could get paid for a story.

I'm not condoning Tiger, or even defending him really, but you seem to take a hardline stance as if you know the man.

None of us do, so we shouldn't jump to conclusions if we don't have all the facts.

What we do know is Tiger is a great golfer, has made a lot of people rich, and completely tore apart his family by repeatedly fucking around on his wife.

Beyond that, its pure speculation.

Tiger is a brand. To say just the media crafted his image is far from the truth. When you're as big as he is, you're mindful about everything you do. His sponsors and he have been in control of his image since day one. The media aided it but he's always been in the drivers seat. He's shown us what he wanted to and he's shown us only what we'd expect from him.

He's made far more money selling his image then he has sinking putts. Everything about tiger was a perfect picture until the crash. Something like that doesnt just happen, its created. Say I'm speculating or whatever but the guy has the talent and he and his people wrote the perfect back story to go with it and spoon fed it to us all.

Why were people in the inner circle fired? Maybe they all knew what was going on so to uphold that image and not risk a story of his transgressions leaking out, they were cut off and the people who kept their mouth shut were allowed to stick around.

Sponsors can throw all the money they want at you but that doesn't mean he has to take it. They picked him because he represents an image they want people to see in their brand and he picked them because they gave him something to build his image up. The credibility and status that come with the companies he's chosen to align himself with add that much more to the tiger mystique.

I've never asked or wanted tiger to broadcast everything or draw attention to himself. I'm just saying that hardly anybody without an invested interest in Tiger has come out to support him. People have just let him fall. You even said yourself most pga vets think he's an ass. Where are the people to back him up?

Maybe this time it really is the media dumping on tiger and running with the slut of the day. Maybe there is good tiger stories out there trying to be heard but until they are, I'm gonna call it like I see it and the way I see it is this guy crafted an image and cashed in on it until it all came to crashing down. A guy just doesnt wake up and decide to fuck half the population of montana behind his wifes back. Its something he's been doing for a long time.

The longer he waits to come out, the more time his marketing and pr army has time to figure out how to properly relaunch tiger so they can limit the damage as much as possible. Not to soften the blow to tiger the person but tiger the brand. It also proves to me that Tiger doesnt make uncalculated moves, as we've all talked about before millions and billions of dollars are at stake here. He could have ended it day one but didnt want to have his image tarnished and tried to cover it up. He finally lost control of his image and we saw the first glimpse of the real tiger which isnt so pretty.

[Enrobrorb]

Tiger is a brand. To say just the media crafted his image is far from the truth.

The media *did* craft his image (one as a son with a father's support; one as a loner who had goofy-looking teeth while he wasn't completely 'Asian' or all 'Afro'). He didn't have control over how many cameras were on the back nine.

Yes, he did bitch and whine at cameras and wasn't the most gentlemanly golfer on the course. (much to others' chagrin)

Hopefully, this will teach him that he *could* end up right alongside Barry Bonds as far as 'greats' who hate their fans go.

[freevideoandoicsI]

Tiger is a GREAT golfer. A black man in a white man's sport.

Tiger didn't make Tiger look like a wholesome guy. The media did.

We always saw him yelling at fans, and abrasive towards most of the other pro golfers for years. Most of the PGA vets don't like Tiger at all. He's always been an ass, but the media has always portrayed him as something different.

He always tried to live a private life, and until now, he succeeded. That doesn't mean he was trying to show he was perfect. It was moreso that he didn't want to be bothered. He fired people in his inner circle over the years if they talked about Tiger behind the scenes.

Sponsors threw money his way b/c he is the face of golf, and the most recognizable athlete in the world right now.

Its not any different than Michael Jordan, Shaq, Bo Jackson, and many others over the years.

Just b/c you see someone act a certain way on camera, doesn't mean that is their true persona.

Also, what makes you think that Tiger does broadcast everything he does? Maybe he is geniune, maybe he isn't, but there's no way of knowing just how much time and money he's put into everything if he has been so private, and noone has talked on his behalf until all these mistresses came out, realizing they could get paid for a story.

I'm not condoning Tiger, or even defending him really, but you seem to take a hardline stance as if you know the man.

None of us do, so we shouldn't jump to conclusions if we don't have all the facts.

What we do know is Tiger is a great golfer, has made a lot of people rich, and completely tore apart his family by repeatedly fucking around on his wife.

Beyond that, its pure speculation.

Excellent post.

Rep.

[hrotedk]

I'm not surprised she would want the divorce...however, if the reports about the new pre-nup are true that she would receive an additional $50 million if she stuck with him for 2 years, it is a little surprising she is moving on the divorce already.

Good for her...although to be honest, I probably would've stuck it out for 2 years for $50 million. That's a lot of coin.

I would think that this particular pre nup will be like alot like most battle plans that are drawn up.

Before first contact with the enemy, they look nice, but as soon as the battle is joined, it goes out the window.

Im guessing that Elin's legal team will account for each woman, its effect on Elin and the kids (emotionally, physically, whatever) and assign a figure to each one.

Im no lawyer, but I m assuming that the pre nup that was in place was if the divorce fails (in an 'irreconcilable differences" and amicable sort of way) that it would be a tidy way of getting it over quickly.

Im sure the pre nup didnt take into account the extraordinary circumstances (or lengths) that Tiger would eventually go on to deceive his wife of multiple transgressions.

First order of business if Im on Elin's legal team: "That pre nup, Mr Woods (and lawyers) is out the window. My client's been publicly embarrassed, been put through extreme emotional distress not of her doing and will, for years, have to deal with this and so will the children.

Should we start at $500 million?"

[Peretool]

great move for tiger. now he gets to have her take the kids, bang all the whores he wants, make millions. no strings attached. its what he should have been doing. lets just hope he doesnt fall in love with the next bimbo he sticks it to. which wouldnt be suprising to me. seems like that kind of guy.

[DialOne]

I would think that this particular pre nup will be like alot like most battle plans that are drawn up.

Before first contact with the enemy, they look nice, but as soon as the battle is joined, it goes out the window.

Im guessing that Elin's legal team will account for each woman, its effect on Elin and the kids (emotionally, physically, whatever) and assign a figure to each one.

Im no lawyer, but I m assuming that the pre nup that was in place was if the divorce fails (in an 'irreconcilable differences" and amicable sort of way) that it would be a tidy way of getting it over quickly.

Im sure the pre nup didnt take into account the extraordinary circumstances (or lengths) that Tiger would eventually go on to deceive his wife of multiple transgressions.

First order of business if Im on Elin's legal team: "That pre nup, Mr Woods (and lawyers) is out the window. My client's been publicly embarrassed, been put through extreme emotional distress not of her doing and will, for years, have to deal with this and so will the children.

Should we start at $500 million?"

read that she is lawyering up in cali and proceeding cautiously. she is looking at 350 million the article said, which is half of what he has made since they were married.

[OccumCymn]

This is what I'm talking about with people expecting things. Is he going to start this new venture because he wants to or has to in order to help repair his image?

Both

[Toossehew]

read that she is lawyering up in cali and proceeding cautiously. she is looking at 350 million the article said, which is half of what he has made since they were married.

The deal is if they stay together, he's going to be miserable, and if she made him quit golf, sooner or later the money would stop coming in.

350M is a big number, but not as big for a guy worth a billion, nor one that routinely makes 100M in a year.

[shemadagaswer]

He's shown us what he wanted to and he's shown us only what we'd expect from him.

You do realize how this contradicts your complaints that he doesn't do enough charity, or isn't caring enough for you.

The point that he has always been close to the vest means EVERYTHING is under wraps. You assume that the only stuff we have never heard about until now is bad stuff.

Maybe that is true, but there is nothing to say that there isn't a lot of good stuff that was never reported on as well.

[sharpyure]

You do realize how this contradicts your complaints that he doesn't do enough charity, or isn't caring enough for you.

The point that he has always been close to the vest means EVERYTHING is under wraps. You assume that the only stuff we have never heard about until now is bad stuff.

Maybe that is true, but there is nothing to say that there isn't a lot of good stuff that was never reported on as well.

I dont know if you read all my post but I've already explained the doing enough for charity part. He's done whats expected, meaning, when people see a guy with tons of money they expect him to give back. Which he's done. What we havent heard/seen is Tiger doing anything other then whats required to make him look like he cares. Show me something other then putting your name on a building or writing a check which is what you'd expect. Show me an act of true compassion and caring for other people. While those acts are still great its just something I'd expect a guy with a Billion Dollars to do.

I also agreed with you in my last post that maybe there are good stories out there but they haven't come out yet. I also said until they do I'm going to take what we've seen and draw my own conclusions from there but as more girls come out everyday nobody steps up with a hey give him some slack story. All these whores kept their mouths shut until now, why is it so hard for somebody who tiger helped to open their mouth and defend him?

To me it looks like this guy cares about two things, Winning and money. A guy that can do what he's done to his family, doesnt give a crap about sick children or endangered species, He cares about records and dollar signs. Everything since the car wreck has totally shattered Tigers image. It takes everything we've been made to believe and throws it out the window. So until somebody shows me tiger really cares, I really dont think he does. Anybody can do whats expected of them. Its when they do the unexpected and it shows a persons true character. The only unexpected thing we've seen so far is bad and downright disgusting.

[dmitrynts]

I dont know if you read all my post but I've already explained the doing enough for charity part. He's done whats expected, meaning, when people see a guy with tons of money they expect him to give back. Which he's done. What we havent heard/seen is Tiger doing anything other then whats required to make him look like he cares. Show me something other then putting your name on a building or writing a check which is what you'd expect. Show me an act of true compassion and caring for other people. While those acts are still great its just something I'd expect a guy with a Billion Dollars to do.

I also agreed with you in my last post that maybe there are good stories out there but they haven't come out yet. I also said until they do I'm going to take what we've seen and draw my own conclusions from there but as more girls come out everyday nobody steps up with a hey give him some slack story. All these whores kept their mouths shut until now, why is it so hard for somebody who tiger helped to open their mouth and defend him?

To me it looks like this guy cares about two things, Winning and money. A guy that can do what he's done to his family, doesnt give a crap about sick children or endangered species, He cares about records and dollar signs. Everything since the car wreck has totally shattered Tigers image. It takes everything we've been made to believe and throws it out the window. So until somebody shows me tiger really cares, I really dont think he does. Anybody can do whats expected of them. Its when they do the unexpected and it shows a persons true character. The only unexpected thing we've seen so far is bad and downright disgusting.

We can go round and round about this, but the media reports what they want.

Tiger doesn't have to have a camera crew ala Oprah everytime he does something good.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but just b/c its not reported on, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

We're in a world where ratings are king, and shows like TMZ now have an hour long show.

Its tabloid TV, and the more dirty the story is, the better.

Noone cares that so and so is a good father, and husband, and has been married for 20 years.

Watch the news tonight and tell me how many feel good stories you hear compared to the bad ones.

I guarantee the percentages of bad stories is probably at least 90%.

[KellyMP]

I dont know if you read all my post but I've already explained the doing enough for charity part. He's done whats expected, meaning, when people see a guy with tons of money they expect him to give back. Which he's done. What we havent heard/seen is Tiger doing anything other then whats required to make him look like he cares. Show me something other then putting your name on a building or writing a check which is what you'd expect. Show me an act of true compassion and caring for other people. While those acts are still great its just something I'd expect a guy with a Billion Dollars to do.

I also agreed with you in my last post that maybe there are good stories out there but they haven't come out yet. I also said until they do I'm going to take what we've seen and draw my own conclusions from there but as more girls come out everyday nobody steps up with a hey give him some slack story. All these whores kept their mouths shut until now, why is it so hard for somebody who tiger helped to open their mouth and defend him?

To me it looks like this guy cares about two things, Winning and money. A guy that can do what he's done to his family, doesnt give a crap about sick children or endangered species, He cares about records and dollar signs. Everything since the car wreck has totally shattered Tigers image. It takes everything we've been made to believe and throws it out the window. So until somebody shows me tiger really cares, I really dont think he does. Anybody can do whats expected of them. Its when they do the unexpected and it shows a persons true character. The only unexpected thing we've seen so far is bad and downright disgusting.

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[ashleyjoseph]

We can go round and round about this, but the media reports what they want.

Tiger doesn't have to have a camera crew ala Oprah everytime he does something good.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but just b/c its not reported on, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

We're in a world where ratings are king, and shows like TMZ now have an hour long show.

Its tabloid TV, and the more dirty the story is, the better.

Noone cares that so and so is a good father, and husband, and has been married for 20 years.

Watch the news tonight and tell me how many feel good stories you hear compared to the bad ones.

I guarantee the percentages of bad stories is probably at least 90%.

I totally agree with this point and as I've now stated numerous times, maybe they aren't saying the good stuff but if the majorty of his actions were good, there wouldnt be so many girls coming out. I can understand 1 maybe 2 but its up to 14. Most normal guys dont even nail 14 chicks in their life.

So yes, I fullly agree there could be good news out there but we havent heard it. I'm not asking for him to have a camera crew follow him or have him say look what I did. I'm just asking for somebody to show that theres more to tiger then being a douche and so far nobody can.

[Pheboasmabs]

When Tiger makes his comeback, here are some of the slogans they're going to want to change:

"I am Tiger Woods"

"Just Do It"

"Is It In You?"

[emily]

I totally agree with this point and as I've now stated numerous times, maybe they aren't saying the good stuff but if the majorty of his actions were good, there wouldnt be so many girls coming out. I can understand 1 maybe 2 but its up to 14. Most normal guys dont even nail 14 chicks in their life.

So yes, I fullly agree there could be good news out there but we havent heard it. I'm not asking for him to have a camera crew follow him or have him say look what I did. I'm just asking for somebody to show that theres more to tiger then being a douche and so far nobody can.

The women are coming out of the woodworks b/c they see dollar signs.

They can sell their stories to the tabloids.

Hell, the girl with the 31 month affair I bet throws a book together.

They kept quiet all these years for numerous reasons, but its not uncommon that more women speak up once the story is out.

The same thing happened to David Letterman.

There's also nothing to say that some women haven't kept quiet.

How do we know that this is it?

[LINETFAD]

The women are coming out of the woodworks b/c they see dollar signs.

They can sell their stories to the tabloids.

Hell, the girl with the 31 month affair I bet throws a book together.

They kept quiet all these years for numerous reasons, but its not uncommon that more women speak up once the story is out.

The same thing happened to David Letterman.

There's also nothing to say that some women haven't kept quiet.

How do we know that this is it?

We don't know this is it. But odds are that this is the majority of it - while he could have a different chick in every city he plays in, odds are that he's a little less.... Chamberlain than that.

Regarding this charitable deeds, odds are that we also know the vast majority of those, as they serve to enhance the public image. While he might be doing good deeds under cover of darkness, it's really unlikely.

[Nubtoubrem]

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WOW! Tiger woods must really care because he gave money and lent his name to charity events.

I'll agree with you he's a good person if you agree with me to give 5% of your yearly salary to chairty with me and help me start a charity for kids from divorced homes. We'll call it bondo and bretts buddies and get people to donate money help too. Deal?