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Old 01-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #1
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The thing with MAP pricing is this. A company can not force Mr. Delear to sell at a certain price. This was settled in court not to long ago. The company can decide to not ship to Mr. Delaer after hearing of not adhering to their suggested price.

I understand why companies do this becuase it helps keep percieved value of their product up. You don't get dealers selling for 10% over their cost on the internet just to sell masses quantities.

If Mr. Dealer was smarter he would have included a free non ping putter, shoes or anything else with percieved value instead of lowering his price on the irons set.

Back on subject, I know Titelist is paying for placement but they have been around the game for a very long time. I remember when I used to get excited when I would find a balata ball becuase it was so much softer to hit than my cheap Top Flights I was playing back then. I am starting to let my guard down on Nike
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:45 PM   #2
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Does Callaway have a MAP policy, or is the manager at Golf HQ just FOS?

Drove past the store about a month ago and their electronic sign was advertising Big Bertha Diablo balls 2 for $30. I couldn't pass that deal up so I went into the store, and when I found the balls there was a sign that they were 2 for $39.99. I explained to the manager about the sign and he refused to sell them to me at 2 for $30. I had explained to him that since that price was advertised, even in error, he was obligated to sell at that price, and he still refused, claiming "Callaway won't allow it". I took a picture of the inside sign intending to file a complaint with the BBB, and before I could get a picture of the outside sign, he RAN into the office in the back and turned off the sign.
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:48 PM   #3
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Every company has MAP and some are stricter about it than others. The reason the Diablo balls are cheaper right now is that they are making changes to the ball line.
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:52 PM   #4
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If Mr. Dealer was smarter he would have included a free non ping putter, shoes or anything else with percieved value instead of lowering his price on the irons set.
They aren't allowed to do that either. For awhile (not sure if this is still true), internet merchants couldn't even offer free shipping on PING products. That's why (one of the reasons anyway) they do cheap flat rate shipping.
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:56 PM   #5
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Does Callaway have a MAP policy, or is the manager at Golf HQ just FOS?

Drove past the store about a month ago and their electronic sign was advertising Big Bertha Diablo balls 2 for $30. I couldn't pass that deal up so I went into the store, and when I found the balls there was a sign that they were 2 for $39.99. I explained to the manager about the sign and he refused to sell them to me at 2 for $30. I had explained to him that since that price was advertised, even in error, he was obligated to sell at that price, and he still refused, claiming "Callaway won't allow it". I took a picture of the inside sign intending to file a complaint with the BBB, and before I could get a picture of the outside sign, he RAN into the office in the back and turned off the sign.
First, I will say that sucks. Most sales people will honor a misadvertised price even if you don't ask them too.

But the main reason I wanted to comment is that I find the visual of the guy running to change the sign hilarious.

Also, if he knows that "Callaway won't allow it" then why did he put the signs up? Shady.
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:16 PM   #6
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CT,
You are right about the public perception. Ironically TM has both the number one selling iron and the number one selling driver right now.

Your point brings up something else as well. Many get mad at companies like Mizuno, TM, Adams, etc... for bringing so many sets of irons and so many drivers out each year. While money is behind it all, I think there is more to it than that. I think part of it is that they are really trying to go after the "we have clubs for every single kind of player" mentality.
JB, I've always wondered about that statement by TM. Are they claiming that one of their drivers is the best selling or is it the TM line. I think back to the R7. By the time they retired the line how many variations within the R7 line were there? 6 or 7 I think. The R9 is already at 4 and it is only the start of the 2nd year!
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:20 PM   #7
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JB, I've always wondered about that statement by TM. Are they claiming that one of their drivers is the best selling or is it the TM line. I think back to the R7. By the time they retired the line how many variations within the R7 line were there? 6 or 7 I think. The R9 is already at 4 and it is only the start of the 2nd year!
The statement from them is that they are the #1 driver sold (driver line) at retail. It means from a driver line. so it would include all the R9s for example or all the Burners. However the R9 (original) was the number 1 driver sold in 2009 as well. (according to data numbers compiled by 5 golf stores combined)
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:31 PM   #8
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Do folks still really feel that way about Nike? I know how Nike got into golf, but what does that matter? Especially now?

And do folks believe Nike is still inferior, equipment wise, to the other companies?

Nike makes top notch stuff. It has for awhile now.

Not even Nike haters can debate that.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:33 PM   #9
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Haters will always find a reason to hate a given product. I think for the most part on this board, people like the products quite a bit. I know they have done well in all of our shoot outs and we have reviewed just about every product that has come out from them.

Plus they love having contests on THP. Those are always fun.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:40 PM   #10
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Haters will always find a reason to hate a given product. I think for the most part on this board, people like the products quite a bit. I know they have done well in all of our shoot outs and we have reviewed just about every product that has come out from them.

Plus they love having contests on THP. Those are always fun.
Good stuff. I'm new around here, so I don't know the general "feeling" about things.

However, the main guy (you) seem to be a fair guy. I like that in people.
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