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05-27-2012, 11:54 PM
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 May be the link i posted has something to do with them but as i told earlier i just came across this website & taking my time to read. So allow me to & get the **** out of my thread. 
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05-27-2012, 11:57 PM
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Refutation of the creed of Ahmad Raza Khan : Quotes from the book "Malfuzat" of Ahmad Raza Khan, the founder of the Brlawi sect, showing his belief that Awliya know everything, know Lawh Al-Mahfuz, watch all the universe even their students having intercourse with their wives:  brother.I don't think there are any Barelwis here. |
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05-27-2012, 11:58 PM
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05-27-2012, 11:59 PM
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So, who is this paapi?
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05-28-2012, 12:01 AM
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So, who is this paapi? Believe me now |
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05-28-2012, 12:03 AM
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Just a sinner like me, albeit on a smaller scale. A person knows his reality , I know mines. Waiting for his Mercy to descend. |
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05-28-2012, 12:03 AM
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Your Brother & a sinner In Islam " I bear witness that (there is) no god except Allah; One is He, no partner hath He, and I bear witness that Muhammad (Sall-Allahu Alayhi wa Sallam) is His Servant and Messenger" The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): "I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said about them. I heard him saying, 'these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.' When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk." Aa'ishah had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa'ishah, 'manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa'eel, alayhis salaam.'" [Hadeeth no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath] Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said, "this hadeeth also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem." [Fath 5/217] The hadeeth of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, "do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal." Al-Haythamee says: "its narrators are those of the Saheeh." [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem] |
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05-28-2012, 12:08 AM
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If you believe in Messenger(saw) then you must believe in this: anyways Allah knows best Infact i don't even have a najdi friend. I know only Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab and all im trying to do is trying to figure out who he was from all angles. Tell me brother , You seem to me a La-madhabi why should i read what you give?? why should i not read what your opponents give me to read. See im just trying to be fair , listening to all sides . 
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05-28-2012, 12:20 AM
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I like how some people use the Hadith of Najd to basically make Takfeer on anyone they want from Najd, what if that "Horn of the devil" narration was talking about Musaylamah al-Kazzab? Since al-Yamamah the land of Musaylamah is basically in Najd, isn't more obvious that the "Horn of the devil" is Musaylamah and not basically the people of Najd?
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05-28-2012, 12:23 AM
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That's future tense .. Those who will fight Dajjal why will i hate them .. I am talking about past & present. And the second hadeeth was general not specific to any time period. anyways Allah knows best Infact i don't even have a najdi friend. I know only Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab and all im trying to do is trying to figure out who he was from all angles. And the most strange thing is that you don't want to read what the supports of Imam Muhammad at tamimi says. You said this: Sorry Najdi Deviant links are not welcome. Abu Jafar Hanbali is more reliable , your link is by Ulamaa Najd... LMAO ulamaa Najd are you joking........... Now this is what i call as biasedness. One time you say you want to know abt Imam Muhammad at tamimi from all angles and the other time you made a bigotry comment. Seems you are just another confused propagandist. Tell me brother , You seem to me a La-madhabi why should i read what you give?? why should i not read what your opponents give me to read. See im just trying to be fair , listening to all sides . Well i follow all the four madhabs. So now YOU MUST read what i gave you.Refer this website: http://www.wahhabis.com/ Also this link: http://www.sultan.org/articles/wahabism.html |
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05-28-2012, 12:29 AM
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You can also refer this:
Former Al-Azhar major scholar on Wahhabism and ben Abdel-Wahhab http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=RDoUPHmojTs |
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05-28-2012, 12:35 AM
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I like how some people use the Hadith of Najd to basically make Takfeer on anyone they want from Najd, what if that "Horn of the devil" narration was talking about Musaylamah al-Kazzab? Since al-Yamamah the land of Musaylamah is basically in Najd, isn't more obvious that the "Horn of the devil" is Musaylamah and not basically the people of Najd? 1 ) Did it effect the ummah at a large scale Nooooooo 2) Did the rise of Muhammad ibn abdul wahab & his followers effect the ummah at large scale Yes , thousands were Killed in arabia during his life time and that fitnah still goes the attack on the 4 madhabs ,till today. Who on this forum can justify the killings of Innocent people during the time of Abdul wahab ? Don't come with silly arguments . Answer this : Do u agree that in islam it is allowed to killed other human beings specially if they are not at war with you. there is another hadith that says the last of them will along side the dajjal , Musaylmah al kazzab is gone long long time ago... Im not calling Muhammad Ibn Abdul wahab anything im just refuting your argument. If he died on Iman then may ALLAH FORGIVE HIM AND GRANT HIM JANNATUL FIRDAUS |
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05-28-2012, 12:37 AM
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The britisher put the likes of Abdu and afghani in position of authority, giving rise to lamadhabism.
As for shaikh Abdal Wahab was correct in his venture in ridding hijaz of biddah but in doing so his movement also damaged the established sciences of islam and opted for a minority view which was never accepted by the vast majority. The wahabism in general is a simplton movement and verges on dissinjenious scholarship. They safeguard this by not allowing scholars from other recognised institute. The hounding out of scholars is a prime example. Allahualam |
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05-28-2012, 12:42 AM
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The britisher put the likes of Abdu and afghani in position of authority, giving rise to lamadhabism. Do you justify the killing of innocent muslims during the time of abdul wahab ? Answer this straight |
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05-28-2012, 01:03 AM
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its a pity any discussion on the najdis results in childish discussions/accusations
this thread should be closed. |
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05-28-2012, 01:07 AM
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its a pity any discussion on the najdis results in childish discussions/accusations Because your forefathers made you believe to love this man who was a Mass Murderer just like Hitler killed so many jews. The difference is only the victims . on one hand we have jews being killed and on the other hand Innocent Muslims were killed. You people are insane and support acts of inhumane killings , you are terrorists. Peace ! |
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05-28-2012, 01:18 AM
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If i want i can write more here against Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab .
But i wont .The Man is gone. If he repented before his death for what he has done and departed with Imaan then we will have to answer in the court of Allah. I just hate killings. I hate Killings . I hate Killings...... Allah swt know best and forgive those who has passed away amongs't believing men & women , muslim men & women. ***********************************Thread Closed******************************************** ***** |
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05-28-2012, 01:28 AM
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Yes when u cant give an answer , then CLOSE the thread |
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