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Old 01-10-2012, 01:39 AM   #1
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Interesting stuff and look for further updates if any will be reading.

Akhi quick question, if banks can create money then how can they manage to go bankrupt ?
Exposing the Federal Reserve

A simple animated explanation of HOW the private Federal Reserve steals your money and WHY it must be stopped.

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http://www.theamericandreamfilm.com/

The AMERICAN DREAM is a 30 minute animated film that shows you how you've been scammed by the most basic elements of our government system. All of us Americans strive for the American Dream, and this film shows you why your dream is getting farther and farther away.

Do you know how your money is created? Or how banking works? Why did housing prices skyrocket and then plunge? Do you really know what the Federal Reserve System is and how it affects you every single day?

THE AMERICAN DREAM takes an entertaining but hard hitting look at how the problems we have today are nothing new, and why leaders throughout our history have warned us and fought against the current type of financial system we have in America today. You will be challenged to investigate some very entrenched and powerful institutions in this nation, and hopefully encouraged to help get our nation back on track.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #2
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Default Usury , paper money and income tax : How bankers steal your wealth
People underestimate the danger of usury which is forbidden in Islam. Several centuries ago Jewish central bankers based in Europe invented a novel way to steal the real wealth from the people. That is the power of creating money out of nothing (air ) and give the money to the public as loan based on usury !!

But, these bankers deceived the common Europeans using a fractional reserve system of keeping gold in the vault. That is , if they create and give 1000 dollar to the people , they wlll keep 100 dollar equivalent of gold in the vault !! How did 900 dollar come into existence ? Just out of air !!!

For a very long time , these Jewish bankers kept their scam secret. Check this.

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“I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the
credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people.”
Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.

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http://www.themoneymasters.com/mm/

Having private banks create money is the root economic cause of world poverty, ignorance, hunger, and much preventable
disease – the concentration of the world’s money in fewer and fewer hands and the accompanying impoverishment of billions of
our fellow human beings, 1/3rd of whom make less that $2 a day, over 1/2 in abject poverty while a couple of hundred men grow
fabulously richer daily.

Until the money creation power is restored to the people – to their government and taken back from

the bankers - we will never be able to make a dent in these other economic issues.

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #3
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There is a big difference between a banks and a central bank. Every country has only one central bank and many banks.
All the central banks around the world are controlled by BIS , that is , the Bank of International settlements

( http://www.bis.org/central_bank_hub_overview.htm?l=2 )

Banks seen in your local city are actually artificial points of distribution within a fiat money environment. Central banks have to distribute the money they have created (either via the printing press or at the touch of an electronic button) and they choose to do so through "banks."

In truth, central banks could distribute money-from-nothing directly to consumers. It is claimed that if that happened there would be tremendous price inflation; in actuality, that would depend on how much was printed and how quickly consumers spent the "money" they received.

In truth, central bankers will NEVER distribute money directly to consumers because doing so would make clear how the modern money mechanism works; governments and their mainstream media accomplices do their very best to make sure does not happen. It would soon become apparent to people that central bankers can create as much money as they wish when they wish.

It would bring up issues of what real honest money really is – gold and silver, in actuality – and why. It would make clear that central bankers have hijacked the process of money creation and ultimately expose their primary agenda of installing a one-world government, all made possible by controlling the financing spigot. The spread of such knowledge cannot and will not be willingly tolerated by the power elite.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #4
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A nice video showing the banking scam !!

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Fabian - The tale of the goldsmith English subtitles - FULL LENGTH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

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For the transcript ,check this link.

http://www.freedom-school.com/money/...ed-fabian.html

The story you have read is of course, fiction.

But if you found it to be disturbingly close to the truth and would like to know who Fabian is in real life, a good starting point is a study on the activities of the English goldsmiths in the 16th and 17th centuries.

For example, The Bank of England began in 1694. King William of Orange was in financial difficulties as a result of a war with France. The Goldsmiths "lent him" 1.2 million pounds (a staggering amount in those days) with certain conditions:

The interest rate was to be 8%. It must be remembered that Magna Carta stated that the charging or collecting of interest carried the death penalty. The King was to grant the goldsmiths a charter for the bank which gave them the right to issue credit.

Prior to this, their operations of issuing receipts for more money than they held in deposits was totally illegal. The charter made it legal.

In 1694 William Patterson obtained the Charter for the Bank of England. Quotations:

Encyclopaedia Britannica, 14th Edition - "Banks create credit. It is a mistake to suppose that bank credit is created to any extent by the payment of money into the banks. A loan made by a bank is a clear addition to the amount of money in the community."

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #5
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Interesting stuff and look for further updates if any will be reading.

Akhi quick question, if banks can create money then how can they manage to go bankrupt ?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #6
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banks can create money from nothing but there are mathematical limits and also they need someone to sign a paper to be in debt. When X goes to the bank for a loan, the bank creates the money only after X agrees and signs a paper to say he is responsible for paying that back. There is also mathematical limits...if all banks just kept creating lots and lots of money without any limits they would make all paper money worthless...the balance is carried out by central banks....the government also takes away money from the system through taxation.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #7
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banks can create money from nothing but there are mathematical limits and also they need someone to sign a paper to be in debt. When X goes to the bank for a loan, the bank creates the money only after X agrees and signs a paper to say he is responsible for paying that back. There is also mathematical limits...if all banks just kept creating lots and lots of money without any limits they would make all paper money worthless...the balance is carried out by central banks....the government also takes away money from the system through taxation.
Interesting analogy their akhi, well seems like the Rothschild are certainly a very clever bunch then ?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #8
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Interesting analogy their akhi, well seems like the Rothschild are certainly a very clever bunch then ?
smart but unloved and their souls will never be at peace....they cause so much death and destruction in the world...really they live in a hell....which will become a real hell after they die. It is no wonder that they hate religion and promote secularism...because religion condemns their activities and them.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #9
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Interesting stuff and look for further updates if any will be reading.

Akhi quick question, if banks can create money then how can they manage to go bankrupt ?
Banks go bankrupt , but not the central banks !!

Check this article to get the answer to your question.
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Central Banks were created by the banking community as lenders of last resort because they went bust so often. They needed the CB’s to maintain a certain stability within the system, otherwise they would not have been able to maintain their monopoly on currency.

Nowadays CB’s are all powerful financial juggernauts allowing the Money Power full control always. They don’t care about some of their banks going bust occasionally, because they are just the vehicles dividing the market among them. Their market control remains 100%.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #10
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How come people are so accepting of this theft? How come after you explain to someone how the bankers are robbing us...the people just blink and continue as if it is ok? Why do they not get angry and do something about it??
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #11
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How come people are so accepting of this theft? How come after you explain to someone how the bankers are robbing us...the people just blink and continue as if it is ok? Why do they not get angry and do something about it??
The average person in the society is very self-centered. He will take action only when he is personally affected. So, if you tell the average guy that the monetary value of his assets stored as paper money is going down due to the inflation of money supply , then that guy will wake up !!

In short , tell him that inflation is a theft !! Why inflation happens ? Because , the central bankers are allowed to inject money into the market just by printing more money !! Thus , too much money chase too few goods in the market !! Naturally , his savings stored as paper money will have less purchasing power after 10 or 20 years !!
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #12
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Just today at work I explained to a non Muslim how his pension plans might disappear before he collects and inflation and how it robs us all...and he dislike me for telling him....he would rather stay ignorant. Muslims are like this as well.

I bought a used car from Muslims they lied to me about someone else wanting the same car because they did not want to drop the price. This is how corrupt we are.



The average person in the society is very self-centered. He will take action only when he is personally affected. So, if you tell the average guy that the monetary value of his assets stored as paper money is going down due to the inflation of money supply , then that guy will wake up !!

In short , tell him that inflation is a theft !! Why inflation happens ? Because , the central bankers are allowed to inject money into the market just by printing more money !! Thus , too much money chase too few goods in the market !! Naturally , his savings stored as paper money will have less purchasing power after 10 or 20 years !!
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #13
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How come people are so accepting of this theft? How come after you explain to someone how the bankers are robbing us...the people just blink and continue as if it is ok? Why do they not get angry and do something about it??
Because no gradual plan exists to get rid of fiat money, interest, and the fractional reserve banking system. Individuals can't do anything. Getting angry won't really accomplish much.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #14
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Because no gradual plan exists to get rid of fiat money, interest, and the fractional reserve banking system. Individuals can't do anything. Getting angry won't really accomplish much.
I think it (apathy) goes deeper than that. People for some reason just do not care. If we all felt incensed and angry about it we would do something about it. Try to find a solution there are many proposals even halal ones. There are many more of us than there are bankers why would millions of people allow themselves to be robbed by a few hundred people?

If everyday a robber held you up and stole 10 dollars from you...you would be angry, yet bankers still 100s of dollars from you and everyone else you know...and we just accept it! It is astonishing to see! And these same people will get passionate about sport and films or some other insignificant thing that has no impact on their lives. Most people are crazy.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #15
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I think it (apathy) goes deeper than that. People for some reason just do not care. If we all felt incensed and angry about it we would do something about it. Try to find a solution there are many proposals even halal ones. There are many more of us than there are bankers why would millions of people allow themselves to be robbed by a few hundred people?

If everyday a robber held you up and stole 10 dollars from you...you would be angry, yet bankers still 100s of dollars from you and everyone else you know...and we just accept it! It is astonishing to see! And these same people will get passionate about sport and films or some other insignificant thing that has no impact on their lives. Most people are crazy.
I wouldn't say that people don't care. The problem is just too big, and too deeply embedded in everyone's lives to even start to fathom the implications - and what is required to overhaul the system.

As an example, if you go up to someone and say, "Everything you see in the world around you is based on, and is an extension of falsehood. Why aren't you doing anything to fix it!" You see, it's not going to work with the vast majority of people. It's too overwhelming.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #16
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I wouldn't say that people don't care. The problem is just too big, and too deeply embedded in everyone's lives to even start to fathom the implications - and what is required to
It's too overwhelming.
This sense of defeatism is what the central bankers want to induce into the minds of the people . Something like , we are unbeatable , you can't fight with us !! So , be ready to be squeezed and robbed !!!

But , God has forbidden usury. If something like usury can not be defeated or avoided , God should not make it haram.

So, there must be ways out to avoid usury and defeat a usury-based system !!!
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #17
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A grear article !!


Take your Money out of the Banks NOW!!
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They say we need the banks, because otherwise the real economy would have no money to trade with.

All this is complete and utter rubbish, of course. If banks can create credit, then anybody can. That’s just common sense.


Just imagine: we are led to believe that we need to cough up trillions just to have a means of exchange. One that is completely paper/computer based. I.e., almost free of cost.

Banking is part of the Babylon Mystery and bankers believe we are still enthralled with their ‘fractional reserve banking’ sleight of hand. And they are right. Although people are waking up, they still don’t get it.


A good example of this is the ‘take your money out of Bank of America’ of last October. Bank of America decides to rake in an extra 60 dollars per year with a silly fee. This upsets people.

While they are paying $300k interest over 30 years on their $200k mortgage. Which the bank created the moment they borrowed it.

Meanwhile, 45% of our disposable income is lost to cost for capital included in the prices we pay for our daily needs.

In other words: Penny wise, pound foolish.

People still don’t understand how badly they are being raped. They still don’t understand how they are fleeced through interest on fictional debt.

Coming to terms

Of course, it was a great step and absolutely fantastic to see people finally showing a little teeth. But it shows how hesitantly people are coming to grips with the reality of banking.

Boycotting the banks is the blindingly obvious approach. If somebody is enslaving you with interest and fractional reserve banking while destroying the economy by not lending why would you patronize his business?

To say this is irresponsible as it will worsen the crunch is ridiculous: propping up a system that only exists to enslave us is irresponsible, not disconnecting from it.

But only few even within the Free Media are willing to accept this simple conclusion.

The fact of the matter is: many are still enthralled with the ‘magnificent edifice of international finance’, as Rothschild mouthpiece the Economist once called it.

It is unfortunate that there is still widespread misunderstanding about both money and our real problem with it.

People do not yet understand how pervasive the enslavement through interest really is.
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