[freevideoandoicsI]

Ok, my husband's family is from Belarus. When we walked around the city of Grodno, every single female, unless perhaps an older Babushka, was the exact same size. Most ppl there are Russian/Belorusian/Latvian etc... crosses.

Even in the older ppl with a few extra pounds you never saw thighs on a person, or any "abnormal fat" their bodies looked the same but with a few extra pounds.

Not to get sidetracked, but just walking down the street you could have instantly picked 10 women in a row and put them on America's next Top Model and they would have blown away any of the other contestants. lol

Needless to say I was kind of horrified walking around there with extra weight, apparantly that means you are from "America" if you are heavy usually.

Well...I ate fried fried fried and more fried food while there, blinchiki's, gubreckis the list goes on, even toast is fried in the pan in oil. lol

All meat is automatically organic/hormone free, all vegetables are organic, everyone has there own "ducha" summer house that they grow there vegetables, no pesticides typically.

Everyone walks too, that doesn't hurt.

It basically taught me that fat isnt the culprit, all the additives, hormones, pesticides etc... are to blame.

My husband lived there for a year, moved to the US and packed on the pounds eating the same foods, he moved back for a year (for me to meet the family, get married etc...) got skinny, moved here to Canada with me, packed on the pounds, same food. haha

I am really thinking of spending the extra and never eating additives/pesticides/hormones again!

[diplmixxxx]

Seems like the big differentiator is physical activity not the pesticides. You stated everyone walks there. Most Americans drive.

There are millions of people that lose weight consuming food in America loaded with unhealthy additives. Consuming too many calories, organic or not, will make you fat.

Someone did a documentary to counter Supersize me and ate Mc Donalds at least once a day along with moderate exercise (mostly walking). The only difference is he did portion control and kept his calories in a deficit. Within a month he lost 10 lbs.

[GillTeepbew]

Consuming too many calories... physical activity.....I guess that you subscribe to the calories in...calories out theory.

I used to, but after reading Gary Taubes' books and articles, that just doesn't make sense to me anymore. The glycemic index/load of foods is much more important than the calories as to whether they cause weight gain, because of how the body stores fat based on hormonal signals. The biochemical processes don't necessarily follow the oft-quoted law of thermodynamics.

Check out these links to get a different perspective:
http://tinyurl.com/bigfatlie What if it's all been a big fat lie?
http://tinyurl.com/taubesSS The Scientist and the Stairmaster

[DghtRdc]

Agreed Harmony. As far as the exercise GFA, yes they walked more, but studies have shown that Asians/Europeans that have moved over and continued the exact same diet and exercise have started to put on weight. I would rather not have additives, addictive agents and pesticides in my food regardless of weight loss. Having said that I have to get rid of my addictions to be able to start eating clean. Twinkies don't come additive free. lol

[mygalinasoo]

Totally agree with Harmony Grace and Skye. Calories in/Calories out is a lie that we've been fed for years. FAT IS HEALTHY. Read Gary Taubes book. It was an eyeopener. Wheat Belly is another good one. And read all the blog posts at jackkruse.com. And Mark's Daily Apple. Primal eating is healthy. Carbs are not. Give me my fried food. And butter and coconut oil.

[DYjLN8rF]

I have read Gary Taubes book, its a good read.

Even if you cut out all carbs and consume 5k a day of fats and proteins, you will gain weight unless you balance the calories with activity. Not all carbs are bad anyway. Bodybuilders use carbs as staples of their diet when in contest prep and cutting weight. Usually brown rice earlier in the day.

Michael Phelps consumes 10k calories a day. He also swims for 6+ hours.

Nothing about the body is an exact science but everyone does adhere to the basic principals of themodynamics to some extent. Energy in vs energy out. You can eat some ice cream every day but if you are walking every day and moderately active, you can maintain or even lose weight.

Another interesting read is the China Study. Readers should look at that as well before consuming tons of animal products.

Snippet from wikipedia.

The China Study is a 2006 book by T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D., and his son, Thomas M. Campbell II, M.D. It examines the relationship between the consumption of animal products and illnesses such as cancers of the breast, prostate, and large intestine, diabetes, coronary heart disease, obesity, autoimmune disease, osteoporosis, degenerative brain disease, and macular degeneration.[1] The book had sold 500,000 copies as of January 2011, making it one of America's best-selling books about nutrition.[2]

[jyhugikuhih]

Do they have hormone free meats? Doesn't veggies you buy from store have things in them as well? I think I'm going to plant my veggies this year.

[BenWired306]

Look for organic meats.

Btw Grammy, I agree fats are healthy and I try to get 50+g of fats a day (olive oil, peanut butter, avocados and so on).

Planting veggies is great. Just wish those squirrels would stop eating all my tomatos!

[Mello]

Just laughing and shaking my head, GFA. You must be a guy who has never had an actual weight problem. Calories in/calories out is a lie. I would not be able to lose weight eating one bowl of ice cream and nothing else for the day even if I walked.

[Faumpiggueria]

Just laughing and shaking my head, GFA. You must be a guy who has never had an actual weight problem. Calories in/calories out is a lie. I would not be able to lose weight eating one bowl of ice cream and nothing else for the day even if I walked.

I struggle with my weight but Im using a calorie deficit. 40/40/20 macro split (carbs, protein, fats).

I dropped 20 lbs in the past 40 days. Waist down 3 inches so far.

I go to the gym 5 days a week. I eat around 1800-2k cals a day.

I keep low cal treats (ice cream included) and eat it daily. I eat brown rice every day and protein shakes. All have carbs.

And no you would not gain weight if you ate a bowl of ice cream and nothing else a day. Thats not physically possible.

1 bowl of ice cream = ~500 cals. You dont absorb energy from your surroundings unless you are a plant with photosynthesis. Your body will use more than 500 cals a day unless you are comatose.

1 lb of fat is around 3500 cals.

The only thing you might gain is water weight but thats not the same as fat.

Eventually you would die at 500 cals a day as your body cannabalizes itself (including your organs and heart). Like an anorexic.

[Amfdaaandhaq]

Btw some real proof that carbs are not the reason you get fat.

http://apps.who.int/bmi/index.jsp

Look at the bottom of the list for obesity by country. China and Japan. What do you think they eat at every meal?

Rice... Nothing but carbs.

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/cal...kPTY0NjMw.html

So unless those billion plus people are wrong, I would say activity and moderation with what you eat will keep you lean. Not dismissing all carbs.

[Nidsstese]

Btw some real proof that carbs are not the reason you get fat.

http://apps.who.int/bmi/index.jsp

Look at the bottom of the list for obesity by country. China and Japan. What do you think they eat at every meal?

Rice... Nothing but carbs.

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/cal...kPTY0NjMw.html

So unless those billion plus people are wrong, I would say activity and moderation with what you eat will keep you lean. Not dismissing all carbs.

If you don't have insulin, leptin and other issues related to gaining weight and not being able to lose it, then carbs in a diet otherwise rich in healthy food and with a healthy lifestyle, will indeed not make you fat. Many thin and healthy people can eat what they want and won't gain a bit. However, for many of us, even after hypothalamus and leptin reset, some will simply be better if staying away from grains, especially wheat. The over-processing of foods like wheat also contribute to major endocrine malfunctions.

For a healthy person who wants to lose a few extra pounds, exercise is great and so is restricting calories. It just doesn't work for people whose system is messed up. What the body does with different calories is significant and has everything to do with someone gaining weight even when restricting calories. When someone is storing the few carbs they ingest as fat because the body thinks it is starving, you can try what you want, but that fat is not going to go away long term. Our bodies need to be fat burning machines as opposed to carb burning. For most here, that takes drastic measures like the hcg diet, the leptin reset, staying away from grains, refined sugars and starches altogether.

[Stetbrate]

Calories in calories out worked for me up until I was about 25....now noway. It's low carb , clean and organic to maintain in p3 and p4...Paleo/ Primal baby!

[Andrew1978]

If I ate 500 calories of carbs a day and nothing else, I gain weight. I've done it, GFA. If I would change out 100 calories of the protein allowed on the diet for a fruit instead, I would pack on pounds. Y

I'm not really sure why you're on the forum. You're not using hcg for weight loss. You seem to have a contemptuous tone about those of us who do use it for weight loss. Your attitude seems to be that if we'd just go to the gym and watch our calories, we could lose weight too. That's just not true. We've tried it. We've tried everything and it doesn't work. We'd be happy to help you if you wanted to lose weight with hcg, but I'm puzzled by your participation here.

[Breeriacoirl]

Gotta agree with you, Colleen. Why would anyone be here if not to learn how to lose weight using hCG or to help others to do the same? And if a debate about the best way to lose weight is what he wants, we can move this discussion to the boxing ring where it belongs, in that case. The other parts of this forum are not for what he is doing, rabble-rousing and picking fights.

This is like someone who goes to an atheist meeting and tries to lead a prayer... not productive activity for any of the participants.

If I ate 500 calories of carbs a day and nothing else, I gain weight. I've done it, GFA. If I would change out 100 calories of the protein allowed on the diet for a fruit instead, I would pack on pounds. Y

I'm not really sure why you're on the forum. You're not using hcg for weight loss. You seem to have a contemptuous tone about those of us who do use it for weight loss. Your attitude seems to be that if we'd just go to the gym and watch our calories, we could lose weight too. That's just not true. We've tried it. We've tried everything and it doesn't work. We'd be happy to help you if you wanted to lose weight with hcg, but I'm puzzled by your participation here.

[Mediconlinee]

If I ate 500 calories of carbs a day and nothing else, I gain weight. I've done it, GFA. If I would change out 100 calories of the protein allowed on the diet for a fruit instead, I would pack on pounds. Y

I'm not really sure why you're on the forum. You're not using hcg for weight loss. You seem to have a contemptuous tone about those of us who do use it for weight loss. Your attitude seems to be that if we'd just go to the gym and watch our calories, we could lose weight too. That's just not true. We've tried it. We've tried everything and it doesn't work. We'd be happy to help you if you wanted to lose weight with hcg, but I'm puzzled by your participation here.

No interest in doing the diet. I don't need it. I stumbled across the site for other reasons and just think its interesting. You should be glad I am the only voice providing alternate views on this forum.

People should be educated before doing this diet or any diet. Mainstream medical doctors do not approve of this diet, the FDA does not approve of this diet but it works for people and if you have clear scientific proof it works and is healthy then you can change the minds of others, including myself.

I have yet to see any though.

PS - I don't believe you cant lose weight on 500 calories a day. You either aren't counting calories properly or gaining some water. Or you are secretly a terminator sent back from the future by skynet looking for me and do not require human food.

[Kokomoxcv]

Gotta agree with you, Colleen. Why would anyone be here if not to learn how to lose weight using hCG or to help others to do the same? And if a debate about the best way to lose weight is what he wants, we can move this discussion to the boxing ring where it belongs, in that case. The other parts of this forum are not for what he is doing, rabble-rousing and picking fights.

This is like someone who goes to an atheist meeting and tries to lead a prayer... not productive activity for any of the participants.

How is this rabble-rousing? I am merely pointing out with facts that carbs do not make you fat. Billions of people on the planet eat carbs (namely rice) and have some of the lowest obesity rates in the world.

People make statements without any proof on this forum, I am providing some proof. Why would you not want as much information possible then you can come to your own conclusions?

[drgshmcm]

My fat ass is proof...when I eat carby foods, I gain like a boss!

When I eat high fat /high pro...I maintain.

I wish it were not true...but it is what it is.

[casinoboneerer]

*points off to the right* To the boxing ring with you!

There are quite a lot of us on this board who have tried EVERYTHING before stumbling on this method. And just as many who did not succeed (or gained!) on any of those other diets.
Personally, it was a "physician assisted" low fat/high carb diet that got me into this pickle in the first place. Not only did his 'diet' pack 60 pounds on me in a year (that I then spent the next 12 years trying to get rid of), it completely screwed up my metabolism.
I did everything from Weight Watchers, to Nutrisystem, to clean eating, to straight low carb. Many of these with exercising every single day.
This is the only thing that's worked beyond a 15 pound loss! (Which slowly crept back on, while still doing the same method of eating.)

As for the rice eating populations... http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-a...t-gain-weight/

[FreeOEMcheapestPHOTOSHOP]

No interest in doing the diet. I don't need it. I stumbled across the site for other reasons and just think its interesting. You should be glad I am the only voice providing alternate views on this forum.

People should be educated before doing this diet or any diet. Mainstream medical doctors do not approve of this diet, the FDA does not approve of this diet but it works for people and if you have clear scientific proof it works and is healthy then you can change the minds of others, including myself.

I have yet to see any though.

PS - I don't believe you cant lose weight on 500 calories a day. You either aren't counting calories properly or gaining some water. Or you are secretly a terminator sent back from the future by skynet looking for me and do not require human food.

Maybe you should watch FatHead, the movie. Eye-opening. And you are wrong, many mainstream doctors are supporting their clients.