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Old 03-28-2009, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default help???? Coffee, broccolli??
K so I know we can have all the coffe we want as long as its black, but what about Hazelnut coffee no cream no sugar???
Also I read this
LUNCH-------
One type of vegetable or a salad consisting of
the following (1 ? 1 ½ cups): spinach, chard,
chicory, beet-greens, green salad, tomatoes,
celery, fennel, onions, red radishes,
cucumbers, asparagus, cabbage, broccoli,
cauliflower. Salsa as a dressing or part of
vegetable or fruit.



WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? ONE TO ONE AND A HALF CUPS OF VEGGIES, OR SALAD I DONT UNDERSTAND SO I CAN MIX ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER TO MEASURE A CUP TOO??? ALSO SALSA WHAT KIND OF SALSA AND WHAT DOES PART OF VEGGIE OR FRUIT MEAN?/
SORRY JUST GOT DONE WITH LOADING AND DAY 1 OF VLCD I WANNA DO THIS RIGHT PLEASE HELP IF U CAN
THANKS
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:37 PM   #2
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salsa was not included in the orginal protocol (it can be very high in sugar). I don't believe broccoli or cauliflower were either. You are not supposed to mix veggies, even on a salad. Also, I was very confused on how many veggies to eat on the protocol, but there is no limit on size, just be sure not to go over your 500cal. I use veggies to fill in the gaps on days when I'm short on calories.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:28 PM   #3
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noooo brocolli or cauliflower - or salsa - in the original protocol which is what most of us follow.
ONE veggie per meal (2x a day) and do not mix them.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:37 PM   #4
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I can say from experience that if you put organic salsa over your salad and protein this is fine. It is a great alternative to the vinegar or lemon, especially if it is spicy! just make sure it is JUST veggies in the salsa and no sugar. I buy the whole foods 365 brand, and use about 2 TBSP (not more), which has 5 calories.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:08 AM   #5
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We were on the protocol for 43 days and our physician gave us an expanded food list that included brocolli and cauliflower. We still lost almost a pound a day. Not sure about salsa. There are homemade ones you can make with tomatoes and splenda if needed.
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:12 AM   #6
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what about the whole "don't mix veggies" thing? lots of different stuff in salsa. tracy- the interesting question is whether or not you would have lost more weight on the original program, although i sure wouldn't argue with almost a pound a day! i found that i almost did better on the days when i cheated and added a little extra food (of the allowed ones). i think the calories were a little too low for me. but i didn't measure anything but the meat, either, and didn't count all the calories. if i have to go to all that hassle, i'd probably give up.

does anyone have a list of the stuff that's allowed, and calories per item? that would be helpful to post.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:30 PM   #7
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Here you go - I used this as my bible during P2

Fish (avg 98 calories)


Cod (3.5 oz) - 83 calories
Crab Meat (3.5 oz) - 100 calories
Flounder (3.5 oz) - 90 calories
Haddock (3.5 oz) - 88 calories
Halibut (3.5 oz) - 110 calories
Lobster (3.5 oz) - 98 calories
Red Snapper (3.5 oz) - 110 calories
Shrimp (3.5 oz) - 110 calories
Tilapia (3.5 oz) - 94 calories
Additional white fish are listed at the bottom of the page.
Very Lean Beef (avg 152 calories)

93/7 Lean Ground Beef (3.5 oz) - 150 calories
Cube Steak (3.5 oz) - 160 calories
Sirloin Tip Side Steaks (3.5 oz) - 130 ccalories
Top Round Steak (3.5 oz) - 166 calories
Tri-Tip Steak (3.5 oz) - 154 calories

Venison 120
Chicken


Chicken Breast (3.5 oz) - 87 calories
Veal (avg 114 calories)

Veal, sirloin (3.5 oz) - 110 calories
Veal, loin chop (3.5 oz) - 117 calories
Vegetables (avg 18.8 cal)

Asparagus (3.5 oz) - 20 calories
Asparagus (2? tip) - 1 calories
Asparagus (small spear) - 2 calories
Asparagus (medium spear) - 3 calories
Asparagus (large spear) - 4 calories
Broccoli (3.5 oz) - 34 calories
Broccoli (1 cup - 88g) - 30 calories
Broccoli (5? spear - 31 g) - 11 calories
Celery (3.5 oz) - 15 cal
Celery (medium stalk) - 6 calories
Cabbage (3.5 oz) - 24 calories
Cabbage (1 cup shredded) - 17 calories
Cauliflower (3.5 oz) - 22 calories
Cauliflower (1 cup) - 28 calories
Cauliflower (3 flowerets) - 12 calories
Cucumber (3.5 oz) - 12 calories
Cucumber (small) - 19 calories
Cucumber (medium) - 24 calories
Cucumber (large) - 34 calories
Cucumber (English long) - 60 calories
Lettuce, all varieties (3.5 oz) - 20 calories
Lettuce, all varieties (1 cup) - 8 calories
Lettuce, all varieties (small head) - 32 calories
Red Radishes (3.5 oz) - 12 calories
Red Radishes (one medium) - 1 calories
Spinach, raw (3.5 oz) - 20 calories
Spinach, raw (1 cup) - 7 calories
Spinach, frozen (3.5 oz) - 23 calories
Spinach, frozen (1 cup) - 41 calories
Spinach, cooked (3.5 oz) - 31 calories
Spinach, cooked (1 cup) - 48 calories
Tomato (3.5 oz) - 20 calories
Tomato (cherry) - 3 calories
Tomato (plumb) - 11 calories
Tomato (small) - 16 calories
Tomato (medium) - 22 calories
Tomato (large) - 33 calories
Fruit

Apple (small) - 55 calories
Apple (medium) - 72 calories
Apple (large) - 110 calories
Clementine 34 calories
Orange (navel) - 69 calories
Orange (Florida) - 65 calories
Orange (California) - 59 calories
Strawberries, 12 large - 72 calories
Strawberries, 20 medium - 80 calories
Tangerine 45 calories
Pink Grapefruit (California) - 92 calories
Pink Grapefruit (Florida) - 74 calories
Bread

Grissini Breadstick (3 g) - 12 calories
Melba Toast (3 gram) - 12 calories
Melba Toast (5 gram) - 20 calories
White Fish List

Ayr
Cat Fish
Cod
Coley
Dover Sole
Flounder
Flying Fish
Haddock
Hake
Halibut
Hoki
John Dory
Kalabasu
Lemon Sole
Ling
Monk Fish
Parrot Fish
Plaice
Pollack
Pomfret
Red & Grey Mullet
Red Fish
Red Snapper
Rock Salmon/Dogfish
Rohu
Sea Bass
Sea Bream
Shark
Skate
Tilapia Turbot
Whiting
Keep in mind that all the above calorie counts on meats and vegetables do not include any sauces, salad dressing or butter. You are in fact encouraged not to us sauces such as barbecue sauce, A-1 Steak Sauce, etc., on meats nor any salad dressings on salads or butter on vegetables.
One trick I learned in phase two of my diet is that I could use Louisiana Hot Sauce on chicken as it has zero calories. That has helped immensely and because it is spicy, you feel fuller. I also use Balsamic Vinegar on Spinach salads and toss Romaine very lightly with C easer Dressing.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:31 PM   #8
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fyi - I copied this from another website- I did not use ceasar dressing
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:41 PM   #9
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thanks puggirl- that's great! i just left you a post on another topic. -margie
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:53 PM   #10
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I love califlower and broccoli...Thanks....i'm gonna try em !
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:56 AM   #11
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My husband eats broccoli and has lost 33 lbs in 30 days. He also eats louisiana hot sauce but stalled using one kind it had way way too much sodium 270 mg per serv . So check the label --he switched to Tabasco which has the least sodium only 35 mg and he started dropping again. I make my own salsa which has no sugar in it and dr says it is ok but have been afraid to try it as have been sticking to original protocol and have not wanted to mix veggies as instructed. I weigh out 3 1/2 oz of meat and 3 1/2 oz of veggies which is what is listed on instructions from dr.
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:48 PM   #12
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I have a few friends that are in various stages of the HCG program. They all have given me feed back about mixing and adding veggies to the diet. The ones who have done more than one round of HCG ALL agree that when they sticked to the original list of Dr. S...they lost more than when they mixed/added to the list.
One friend, lost 31 in 28 days on first round - strict adherence to protocol. Lost 21 the second round in 28 days - mixed and added veggies...and then her 3rd round, went back to strict Dr. S diet and lost 29 in 28 days.
The other two friends had similar results - all female.
So, I believe that weight loss is possible by mixing and adding...it is just not as fast as sticking to the protocol.
I've stuck to the diet like crazy. I've lost 24 lbs in 27 days. I'm too chicken to mix/add. I don't want to slow down my progress. I do however, experiment like crazy with spices!!!
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:48 PM   #13
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Me too I am too chicken to mix veggies and screw up a great system that works the way it was written.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:06 PM   #14
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Sorry to say but broccoli, cauliflower or mixing of veggies if NOT allowed on the DR S "weight lose cure".

Here is all you are allowed on the DR S program.

One type of vegetable only to be chosen from the following: spinach, chard, chicory, beet-greens, green salad, tomatoes, celery, fennel, onions, red radishes, cucumbers, asparagus, cabbage


Can you still lose weight by NOT following this, sure, you will lose weight on any 500 calorie diet, with or without HCG but what about the cure? What about losing the correct weight. What about resculpting, what about lean muscle fat or SQ fat what about????

If all you wanted to do was lose weight, why are you doing the weight lose cure? Just curious.

The when one person cheats and spreads the word, hey I did this and it worked, soon you have people trying to do this and it is NOT working for them. This is where 1/2 our clients come from, mis information.

The DR S program works for everyone. it is temporary, I would follow what works as a cure.

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Old 02-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #15
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Coffee is very beneficial to get rid from the extra fat of the body but we must avoid the excessive use of the coffee because It is harmful for the bones of the body.
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