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Old 08-14-2012, 06:42 AM   #21
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I'm glad y'all are all ok. I think you might want to go ahead and file a report with the police and/or AC so it's on file. That way if the dog gets out again, there will be a record. Plus if the neighbor turns around and reports it saying Tye attacked his dog while it was in his yard (or some other nonsense) it's already on record the way you saw it.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:31 AM   #22
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I was just up in the Endless Mountains region of Penna. this weekend and when me and my friend were walking our dogs, we got charged by at least 8 dogs, from a Pekenese to a huge newfie mix. He told me that up there everyone has their dogs loose. I told him I'm not jumping around like an asshole anymore trying to prevent a fight. I'll let the chips fall where they may. MY dog was leashed, MY dog has his shots, MY dog is licensed. (Even though it's a NYC license, reciprocity is given) Lucky for them they never came near us, just up to the property line on the dirt road that we were on.

You shouldn't have to find alternate ways to walk your dog off of YOUR property.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:40 AM   #23
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I would really hate to see another dog getting injured due to the other owners ignorance. It just isnt fair when an off leash dogs picks a fight with a bulldog. I am glad your dog let go.
The first time it happened with my Thor, he threw the 100+lb rottie/gsd on it back and held it down by the throat. I got Thor to let go and the fucking mutt bit my hand. Strong neck on that Thor, it may have been from working his springpole.

AVOID AVOID AVOID RUN RUN RUN, thats my forever motto to protect my dogs
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #24
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I was just up in the Endless Mountains region of Penna. this weekend and when me and my friend were walking our dogs, we got charged by at least 8 dogs, from a Pekenese to a huge newfie mix. He told me that up there everyone has their dogs loose. I told him I'm not jumping around like an asshole anymore trying to prevent a fight. I'll let the chips fall where they may. MY dog was leashed, MY dog has his shots, MY dog is licensed. (Even though it's a NYC license, reciprocity is given) Lucky for them they never came near us, just up to the property line on the dirt road that we were on.

You shouldn't have to find alternate ways to walk your dog off of YOUR property.
I agree. Thank you, hey I've seen those fences work good for some dogs. Personally I would never own or install one. And a dog with selective aggression like "stone" the rotti has no damn business being confined with a wire! North jersey's near population And mt lion is huge not that a fence could help but it s a deterrent so no one is safe not me not my dogs or his dogs! I had a friend tell me last night " omg I would never release my leash" well I wasnt going to play ping pong ball to an aggressive rotti and a pit behind my back and have either one redirect on my daughter! And fuck that I'm not a prisoner in my own home and next time maybe that rotti will think twice!
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:07 PM   #25
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here in Ireland pits have to be muzzled and leashed at all times , , so i fear the day another dog attacks , as my dog wont be able to defend himself , .

when he was about 8mths he got attacked and now he is very D/A , . but he still gets his walks and home work, .

we dont have dog parks , well there is one planned for the area i live in , but my dog wont be allowed to enter as they have restrictions , .
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:28 PM   #26
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I'm sorry for your daughter and Tye. I hope those stupid owners learned their lesson. I'd definitely be filing a report with animal control if you have one.

I tried going for a walk in a new area a few months back. It was not good. Electric fences and loose dogs galore. Luckily I had my friendly, nonreactive dog along. I'm never going back there.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:53 PM   #27
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We've had so many encounters in our neighborhood we carry doggy mace. Trooper will not tolerate another dog coming near us, and it is very clear before the dog ever reaches us, so if some dumb ass dog still comes towards us and the mace isn't a deterrent, and I can't keep the dogs apart I'll let Trooper's leash go. I'm not going to put my dog at a disadvantage because of some asshole dog (and/or owner). Obviously I don't want to hurt other dogs, but I would to protect mine. Sorry...but that's just the way it is.

We recently maced a little Chihuahua because it wouldn’t stop...the mace was more of a mist than a direct line of spray, once the dog got to where the spray reached the furthest, he turned his little yippy ass around and went back into the garage he came from. The owners were in there (moving a couch) and thanked us! If Trooper had gotten a hold of that dog...pffft, wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds.

Austin has flat out kicked dogs before to get them away from ours, and I would too. I'd rather a dog be kicked or maced then be in an all out brawl with one of my dogs.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:53 PM   #28
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What a terrible experience! In the end I have to say, it's great to hear your dog won this one out!

Nearly every house in our neighborhood as dog's so there's always atleast 1 every other block walking or one every 4 blocks off leash. Our very next door neighbor has a GSD that I haven ever seen tethered nor collared, unless walking her and even then I'm surprised they don't "walk" her off leash! When we first got Sophie we had them "meet" but ended up cutting that short as my neigbor didn't have his dog leashed/collared and she consistantly growled and snapped at Sophie. These are the type of people that correct there dog by saying " Oh stop being so rude Clover(gsd)!". She snaps at my dog's at our boarding fence and that is their way of correcting everytime. I assume this is why they just let her in the front now but it's bullshit we have to look before we even take our dog's out of the house. We are moving in 2wks, thankfully.

Because of all the dog's we now drive 10mins to a new industrial park that only has a few buildings. Walk them on 20ft lead's and we are all happy. Out of 20 times going there we've seen one dog in the distance and had maybe 5 car's pass us. Much easier with 3 dog's than coming across strange dog's every few blocks.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:32 PM   #29
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geez.....I'm glad your daughter and pup are okay.

I agree about reporting this so it is in the records, for your dog's sake.

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Old 08-14-2012, 05:46 PM   #30
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You shouldn't have to find alternate ways to walk your dog off of YOUR property.
No, you shouldn't, BUT that is exactly why breeders should be visiting WHERE their dogs are going BEFORE they agree to place a dog. SOME suburban neighborhoods (like the one described) are really just not appropriate for this breed. I would really question whoever placed the OPs dog into that situation.

At the same time, maybe owners should start understanding that crowded neighborhoods with lots of dogs on all sides might not be the best for you OR the dog; and just voluntarily agree to not bring a dog INTO the chaos.

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Old 08-14-2012, 06:04 PM   #31
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OP, invest in a nice mini bat and some mace.

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Old 08-14-2012, 06:33 PM   #32
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No, you shouldn't, BUT that is exactly why breeders should be visiting WHERE their dogs are going BEFORE they agree to place a dog. SOME suburban neighborhoods (like the one described) are really just not appropriate for this breed. I would really question whoever placed the OPs dog into that situation.

At the same time, maybe owners should start understanding that crowded neighborhoods with lots of dogs on all sides might not be the best for you OR the dog; and just voluntarily agree to not bring a dog INTO the chaos.

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The neighbors on all sides of us have dogs. People up and down the street have dogs. People on the streets we walk Peanut have dogs.

We didn't get Peanut from a breeder.

Yes, there are a lot of dogs. But I wouldn't call it chaos. 99.9% of the dogs are either inside the house or inside the back yard when we go by. The few that are loose are either curious or lost and we've returned several dogs to their owners.

One dog was aggressive and DH n Peanut got away without incident (and he took pics of the dog after he brought Peanut home) and called it in.

I don't think having a lot of dogs in the neighborhood should keep someone from having a dog.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:00 PM   #33
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lol why do you ppl let others push you around when its clearly not your fault?? I see alot of threads like this where ppl agree to pay a vet bill.

I will fuck a dog up that tries to harm me, my girlfriend, or my puppy. In the end, its self defense and you should never let anyone push you around if its NOT YOUR FAULT!!!

Put your foot down and tell that guy to go screw himself. Its not your fault he didnt purchase a battery as soon as it died nor is it your fault the dog broke through the fence.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:35 PM   #34
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I think as a dog owner, especially a pit bull owner, it is your duty to adequately protect your dog from other dogs and especially protect other dogs from your dog. Regardless of the idiots that are out there, it is the pit bull that is seen as the dog killer. Incidents can and will happen but the notion that just because you have the right to walk where you want, and choose to allow your dog to defend itself, is flawed. Pit bulls are in danger of BSL and every time another dog is injured we all suffer.

Regardless of who is at fault I would do everything in my power to keep my dog out of these situations. You know about the neighbors dog, maybe the smart thing to do is exchange phone numbers and try to work something out so that when you are ready to walk your dog he can properly contain his for it's own safety and yours. Letting your pit bull fight is never a good idea regardless of the fact you are not a fault. So you taught him and his dog a lesson, but be careful, making people your adversaries who live nearby, is a good way to wind up with a mysteriously sick or dead dog.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:01 AM   #35
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No, you shouldn't, BUT that is exactly why breeders should be visiting WHERE their dogs are going BEFORE they agree to place a dog. SOME suburban neighborhoods (like the one described) are really just not appropriate for this breed. I would really question whoever placed the OPs dog into that situation.

At the same time, maybe owners should start understanding that crowded neighborhoods with lots of dogs on all sides might not be the best for you OR the dog; and just voluntarily agree to not bring a dog INTO the chaos.

Carla
REALLY??? I Will NOT EVEN TOUCH this!!!!! Not worth an argument!!!
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:08 AM   #36
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I think as a dog owner, especially a pit bull owner, it is your duty to adequately protect your dog from other dogs and especially protect other dogs from your dog. Regardless of the idiots that are out there, it is the pit bull that is seen as the dog killer. Incidents can and will happen but the notion that just because you have the right to walk where you want, and choose to allow your dog to defend itself, is flawed. Pit bulls are in danger of BSL and every time another dog is injured we all suffer.

Regardless of who is at fault I would do everything in my power to keep my dog out of these situations. You know about the neighbors dog, maybe the smart thing to do is exchange phone numbers and try to work something out so that when you are ready to walk your dog he can properly contain his for it's own safety and yours. Letting your pit bull fight is never a good idea regardless of the fact you are not a fault. So you taught him and his dog a lesson, but be careful, making people your adversaries who live nearby, is a good way to wind up with a mysteriously sick or dead dog.
Ok so I will lock my dog in the 4 walls in my home because the people across the street have one nut case dog! That's also so good for a dogs mental well being?

And just to be clear. Tye does not ever react to any crazy behavior from other dogs as we walk. His walk is a job he knows it. Head straight ahead at all times. He could care less who is going bananas and we have been approached by others not leashed. He still isn't reactive. It's called proper training. But when another dog is foaming at the mouth and lunging for me and my daughter and the viciously jumps on him he has the right to do what he has to!

I wasn't wrong and either was my dog or daughter! It's other peoples stupidity!! And yes I filed a report to animal control who I know very well and do lots of evals for! Not the first time apparently a complaint has been filed!
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:10 AM   #37
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Ok so I will lock my dog in the 4 walls in my home because the people across the street have one nut case dog! That's also so good for a dogs mental well being?

And just to be clear. Tye does not ever react to any crazy behavior from other dogs as we walk. His walk is a job he knows it. Head straight ahead at all times. He could care less who is going bananas and we have been approached by others not leashed. He still isn't reactive. It's called proper training. But when another dog is foaming at the mouth and lunging for me and my daughter and the viciously jumps on him he has the right to do what he has to!

I wasn't wrong and either was my dog or daughter! It's other peoples stupidity!! And yes I filed a report to animal control who I know very well and do lots of evals for! Not the first time apparently a complaint has been filed!
And just to add if I end up with anything which I won't ( sick or dead) dog. No one can get close enough without me being alerted by my kuvac female. And my dogs are never in the yard ever alone! But if that ever was to happen. U can guarantee my late husbands 9mm will be tasting someone's tonsils!
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:34 AM   #38
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As one poster pointed out, for example in Ireland there is a muzzle law for pit bulls in public and they are not allowed in dog parks. I am not disagreeing with the right as pit bull owners to walk our dogs but regardless of the other dog owners irresponsibility, it is not pit bulls that wind up hurt or killed. Eventually the general and stupid public gets tired of hearing about pit bulls hurting other animals, even when the other animals are at fault and that is why they start feeling it is easier to require a dog with so much capability for damage to be the one muzzled rather than every other idiots dog.

Think of it this way. There are a lot of kids who jay walk or run into the street. It is dangerous and wrong but in a effort to protect them the city may reduce the speed limit in an area where this may happen to 15 mph essentially punishing the drivers for the fact the some kids are idiots and not careful. It is easier for a city full of pet owning idiots to protect those idiots dogs from pit bulls by requiring the pit bulls to be muzzled than trying to stop the other dog owners from being idiots. So right or wrong if pit bull owners cannot keep the idiot pet owners dogs from being hurt by their dogs then you wind up with some muzzle law because regardless of who is at fault, it is the pit bulls that wind up doing the damage and paying the price for every idiot owner.

If your pit bull winds up getting a hold of another animal in your neighborhood, regardless of fault, in the end it will be your dog and you who pays a price. Help us all out and make sure you can prevent this, with mace, break stick, muzzle or whatever but do not allow your dog to grab another one even if it is loose. It will help us all out.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:36 AM   #39
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Muzzle tye? Never! Well I'll take never back never know what his future holds as he matures! But as of now no! If it was my kuvac with me the same would of happened prob worse given her age and the fact she is a guardian breed! I've been around a few bully breeds in my lifetime ive had 6 pit and mixes in my house at once for many many months and I've never had an issue! There are over a hundred pit mixes licensed in my town and that's just licensed and i will not muzzle my fully trained 9 mo old pup who has no aggression! He acted on protecting himself and my daughter and I! This is nuts, and the guy across was fined 250 bucks today because of his dogs actions and his irresponsible behavior as a dog owner! Trust me I know how to handle the breed and I am very responsible

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Old 08-15-2012, 01:42 AM   #40
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The fact that you were able to get a Pit Bull off another dog without a break stick is a minor miracle. The fact that the damage wasn't more severe is a stroke of luck. Last Pit Bull in my area that got a hold of another dog while on a walk killed the other dog in under a minute.

You got lucky.

Carry mace or a taser (for the approaching off leash dog) and a break stick.
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