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Old 03-28-2012, 03:27 AM   #1
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Alright so i was at a local breeder today and he gave me a "tip" and said if i ever breed am bullies to feed the mother lots of fresh goats milk while she is pregnant and then give the pups lots of goats milk until around a year of age as a supplement to their food.. what would be the point of this? make the dog fat? or does it help the dog to grow better and healthy?
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:32 AM   #2
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I always thought that stuff was actually terrible for dogs...I konw you aren't supposed to give cats milk.

Maybe I'm just thinking of cow's milk though...
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:35 AM   #3
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I always thought that stuff was actually terrible for dogs...I konw you aren't supposed to give cats milk.

Maybe I'm just thinking of cow's milk though...
I thought so too. because when my dogs have gotten constipated a little cows milk would clear them up real quick. so i wonder if goats milk is different or has something that's good for them.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:38 AM   #4
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I've heard that goat's milk is more biologically appropriate than cow's milk. Lactose intolerance is due to species inappropriate types of milk.

That said, I still don't think I'd give a dog goat's milk..

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I thought so too. because when my dogs have gotten constipated a little cows milk would clear them up real quick. so i wonder if goats milk is different or has something that's good for them.
The reason cow's milk would be "good" for a constipated dog is because it's BAD for the dog and gives the dog the runs.

It's one extreme to another. When constipation happens, you want to try something like probiotics or organic pumpkin.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:40 AM   #5
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I'm just trying to picture a wolf walking up to a goat and sucking on it's teat for milk.

And just so you know..that is how I determine if something is good for my dogs or not lol
*If they can't catch a chocolate beast in the wild...well...they shouldn't eat it!*
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:41 AM   #6
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I'm just trying to picture a wolf walking up to a goat and sucking on it's teat for milk.

And just so you know..that is how I determine if something is good for my dogs or not lol
*If they can't catch a chocolate beast in the wild...well...they shouldn't eat it!*
Cocoa bean beasts are hard to find.. They blend in with the dirt
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:45 AM   #7
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I'm just trying to picture a wolf walking up to a goat and sucking on it's teat for milk.

And just so you know..that is how I determine if something is good for my dogs or not lol
*If they can't catch a chocolate beast in the wild...well...they shouldn't eat it!*
LMAO!!

yea the part that really got me was up to a year of age.. i understand maybe giving a puppy whos mother cant produce it but why a year old? lol
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:46 AM   #8
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Are there even wolves where the cocoa plants are most common?
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:51 AM   #9
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Theoretically just more "breeder" old wives tales.

Now, if you have to bottle feed or supplement baby animals, goat's milk is a route you can go aside from formulas. As for giving it to dogs until they're a year old, if you like cleaning up diarrhea and tossing out money, go ahead.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:54 AM   #10
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Are there even wolves where the cocoa plants are most common?
There might be panthers. Clearly chocolate is okay for cats. (sarcasm for unsuspecting lurkers)
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:59 AM   #11
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Both my dogs get goats milk once a week (2 years and 4 years old). New reach has shown that it can help with dogs with allergies, and from what I have seen it has really helped Kahne who has a lot of allergies. I dont know why the breeder would say for puppies and mothers though.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:08 AM   #12
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Goats milk has more fat to it than cows. People give it to a nursing mother if the pups start pulling her down or pregnant gyp to get a little more fat on her. Same with pups if mom's milk goes bad or she doesn't have enough. It's not needed and there are alternatives. Jack mackeral is a good one. Goat milk has been used for a long time to raise pups with until they get old enough to eat on their own. The wolf argument doesn't always hold a lot of water with me. I've never seen a wolf on comfortis or antibiotics either but we do it.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:09 AM   #13
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There might be panthers. Clearly chocolate is okay for cats. (sarcasm for unsuspecting lurkers)
Lol I can't imagine a panther eating a cocoa plant.





Both my dogs get goats milk once a week (2 years and 4 years old). New reach has shown that it can help with dogs with allergies, and from what I have seen it has really helped Kahne who has a lot of allergies. I dont know why the breeder would say for puppies and mothers though.
Do you have links for that?
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:20 AM   #14
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Both my dogs get goats milk once a week (2 years and 4 years old). New reach has shown that it can help with dogs with allergies, and from what I have seen it has really helped Kahne who has a lot of allergies. I dont know why the breeder would say for puppies and mothers though.
I was all ready to just drop this one and not go buy any but 3 out of 4 of my dogs have horrible allergies now ima have to read into it.. do you have a link maybe wear you read this?
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:22 AM   #15
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Both my dogs get goats milk once a week (2 years and 4 years old). New reach has shown that it can help with dogs with allergies, and from what I have seen it has really helped Kahne who has a lot of allergies. I dont know why the breeder would say for puppies and mothers though.
If you got sources for the allergy thing, please share. Rita's allergies are making me insane enough that I'd buy a damn goat and milk it myself if it works.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:23 AM   #16
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This is from the website of the goats milk I use....

"According to the Journal of American Medicine, “Goats milk is the most complete food known.” It contains vitamins, minerals, electrolytes, trace elements, enzymes, protein, and fatty acids utilized by the body with ease. In fact, the body can digest goat’s milk in only 20 minutes. Having fat molecules one-fifth the size of those in cow’s milk makes it easily digestible and tolerable to those with compromised digestive systems.. Seventy-two percent of the milk used throughout the world is from goats. Goat milk has no cream separation because of smaller fat molecules. It contains preformed Vitamin A in the milk fat that allows it to be readily available for use by the body. Goat milk contains a higher evolved carotene (pro-Vitamin A). Researchers find the pro-Vitamin A to have cancer-preventing properties. The protein in goat milk forms a softer curd (the term given to the protein clumps that are formed by the action of stomach acid on the protein), which makes the protein more easily and rapidly digestible. Although the mineral content of goat's milk and cow's milk is generally similar, goat's milk contains 13 percent more calcium, 25 percent more vitamin B-6, 47 percent more vitamin A, 134 percent more potassium, and three times more niacin. It also contains 27 percent more of the antioxidant selenium than cow's milk. Goat's milk has long been used and recommended as an aid in the treatment of ulcers due to its more effective acid buffering capacity. Goat's milk has more buffering capacity than over the counter antacids. (The USDA and Prairie View A&M University in Texas have confirmed that goat's milk has more acid-buffering capacity than cow's milk, soy infant formula, and nonprescription antacid drugs.) Goat's milk alkalinizes the digestive system. It actually contains a group of alkaline minerals, and it does not produce acid in the intestinal system. Goat's milk helps to increase the pH of the blood stream because it is the dairy product highest in the amino acid L-glutamine. L-glutamine is an alkalinizing amino acid, often recommended by nutritionists."

It does not say much about helping with allergies on the website but I was told about it helping with allergies from the Rep herself at one of the meeting at work. I will try to dig up some more links later but right now My brain is mush after a long day at work.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:27 AM   #17
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If you got sources for the allergy thing, please share. Rita's allergies are making me insane enough that I'd buy a damn goat and milk it myself if it works.
lol thats funny you say that i was calling all the people i saw online owned goats to inquire if they would sell me milk.. after nos from all 5 people in my area i saw a goat on recycler.com i almost called and asked when i could pick it up
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:28 AM   #18
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I don't see how that references dogs? Or did I miss it?
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:30 AM   #19
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I don't see how that references dogs? Or did I miss it?
I dont either.. but it sounds like it has alot of good stuff in it.. but until i can find the words can help with allergies im not risking it because i dont feel like cleaning up diarrhea from a 60 pound dog all day if it isn't gonna work .
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:33 AM   #20
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lol thats funny you say that i was calling all the people i saw online owned goats to inquire if they would sell me milk.. after nos from all 5 people in my area i saw a goat on recycler.com i almost called and asked when i could pick it up
Hey, my aunt had a goat when they were living in the city. Goat lived in the yard and garage most of the time and got to come into the house here and there. It's tempting,lol.
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