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Carla, Dave Wilson's first dogs weren't that extreme, just on the thick, heavy side, He seemed to like the Gaff type dogs, and even dogs that were a little more moderate. While I found Knuckles overdone, there were plenty of UKC judges that really liked him.

Yeah, I understand, Leslie....and that is where there is such a problem....UKC (American Pit Bull Terrier!) judges that look at something like Knuckles (and I've just seen pics of him is all) and think THAT is breed worthy! I see a UKC title on him...did he ever get an AKC ch? I find that kind of ironic IF in fact he WAS campaigned in AKC and wasn't able to get a championship there.

People that don't know any better look at that championship and proclaim him to be a correct, standard APBT...and build on that.....and on and on it went....

These bigger, thicker Stafs/Pits have always been popular with novices and those that just don't have the breed's best interests on their mind.

Carla