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Old 05-27-2010, 05:58 PM   #1
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I was involved with some folks in Elgin, IL where Mr. Prigge is from. He is certainly targeting these dogs. the council meetings were pretty ridiculous. He has publicly stated a warning about bringing the idea of a ban back if there is another attack.

this is a public figure. I put his email, along with the mayor in an ad in a regional newspaper.

I think it's worth putting your correspondence w/Mr. Prigge on facebook.

What was so bizarre, and disappointedly not unusual, is that at one of the jam packed council meetings during the public comment period invited guests from out of town were not allowed to speak in opposition to the breed discriminatory proposals. However, all of they're evidence they used to justify this nonsense was from...you guessed it...out of town and the usual sources (you all know the culprits that spout news articles, and fear as fact).

I say out him. You could get Tony Aileo (sp?) alerted. He has a local show Elgin 2030 (Elgin2030 - Welcome to Elgin2030 v2.0!). He is a very active civic minded resident of Elgin.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:28 PM   #2
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Great job. You hit the nail right on the head.
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:23 AM   #3
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Ok, so this morning - I got an email from a congressman.. he said he heard of the story of Bandit and seen the pictures and it was clearly a pitbull attack and wanted to know where the dogs were. So, I googled this congressman and hes not even from my state.. but hes trying to get a pitbull ban passed where he is.. I get the feeling he's wanting to use to Bandits story and pictures to help pass his bill. So, I emailed him and told him our vet said he had puppy strangles and absessed boils.. but was not from a pitbull attack was from abusive owners!!! and I made myself clear that I would in no way help him on his bill. that I personally disagree with his belief and would love for him to come meet my dogs.. I told him he is punishing alot of good dogs and people for a few idiots.. and that if he truely believed they were so dangerous - then he should get one himself and use his own story... but that he probably wouldn't do that because he would end up in love with the breed and he couldn't risk that (fighting to ban them then loving one himself).. I also informed him if I found out he used his pictures for his ban, I would notify every media I could about it.. because bandit was abused by his owners.. its not proven to be by another pitbull!!


Maybe I handled that wrong.. I don't know, but Ill be damned if he uses Bandit's pictures to help pass his ban..
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:26 AM   #4
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No way, good for you!!
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:31 AM   #5
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Wow what a douche!!! I think you handled it very well.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:55 AM   #6
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What a dick.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:03 AM   #7
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Sounds to me like you handled that very well.

Does he seriously think you would let him use your dog as an example to get your dogs breed baned? Seriously? Its like asking a black person to help you pass a law to make all black people slaves again! What was that guy thinking?!?!? (please dont anyone take that example the wrong way, I am not racist and in no way believe in slavery, which is why I used that as my example)
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:12 AM   #8
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You definitely handled it well.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:20 AM   #9
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I think you handled it very well too! Good for you!
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:27 AM   #10
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Did he get the pics off of here??

Fuck. That. Guy.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:29 AM   #11
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No, I think he got them off of that site the rescue posted them on for the donations for his vet bills. I do not know though.. I just know if I have any say about it, he wont use them.. (not that he said he was going to.. its just a feeling I got)
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:25 AM   #12
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Sounds to me like you handled that very well.

Does he seriously think you would let him use your dog as an example to get your dogs breed baned? Seriously? Its like asking a black person to help you pass a law to make all black people slaves again! What was that guy thinking?!?!? (please dont anyone take that example the wrong way, I am not racist and in no way believe in slavery, which is why I used that as my example)
I’m African-American and I completely agree with this analogy! Why would a being of the thing you’re trying to destroy help you destroy it? He’s crazy. Man, you are so much better than me, Menzie! I would’ve cussed him out, Georgia style. Especially for trying to get one over on me.
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:41 PM   #13
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Any chance you could copy paste the email he sent you here? I am curious how he worded things and what he said. Also wouldn't hurt to have his email so that people can send polite and respectful opposition to BSL emails and try to educate him.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:10 PM   #14
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I can try.. he really didnt say much - I am just going on a feeling I got from it..(it did have Bandit's pictures in the email but it wouldn't let me copy them here.. it kept coming up as words. so here it is.. (the fine print sounds serious lol).. but googling this man - some of the things he has said and done is scary.. hes trying to pass a ban where he is.. and I guess I may take my feelings too seriously, but its just a feeling I got and I refuse to help him in any way.


It looks like your puppy was attacked by another pitbull. If so, where did it happen? I'm very interested in the story I have found and would like to hear more.

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oh he also forwarded it to about 30 other people.. (im assuming to show them the pictures and what he sent me.. like hes trying to show them hes doing his research or something).. (which I also emailed all of them the email I emailed him denying this and making it clear I am not giving permission to use bandit's pics or story for his witchhunt)
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:36 PM   #15
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Sounds like a jerk on a fishing expedition rather than someone doing his research. I hope the people you sent emails to will read what Bandit's problem actually was and not buy the councimans's theory of an attack. I also hope his constituents find out about his attempts to ban the breed and come down on him like a ton of bricks now and at election time.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:41 PM   #16
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what an idiot- id like to strangle him. everyones right- i wouldnt have been as cordial as you either
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:47 PM   #17
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Directly from his web site under Positions tab

Animal Control Issues
"Dog attacks, specifically pit bull and rottweiler attacks, make the news frequently. These types of dogs are also a street gang status symbol. Our police officers have had to shoot a charging pit bull seemingly every year. Some of the animals I’ve seen walked on heavy tow chains throughout our city’s streets and parks are large and forbidding enough to intimidate anyone.

While pit bull owners protested an earlier proposal directed at them and may feel singled out, one thing is for sure: When most dogs bite a human, they bite and run away because the dog is scared. When a pit bull bites? They bite and clamp down on their victim. Sometimes, only their death will cause a pit bull to release from a bite. Additionally, bystanders are less-likely to intercede in a pit bull attack than a poodle or cat attack.

I favor a plan where all owners of animals that attack or bite another pet or human will have their animal confiscated and must pay a substantial graduating fine within one week to get the animal returned. Animals not picked up are destroyed, as biting animals are not adoption-worthy. Unpaid fines are treated like any other unpaid city fee and attached to either the address of the attack or the pet owner individually."
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Nice way to be a chicken about a pro-BSL position after the city shot it down this year. Looks like he is trying to gather more "evidence" so he can re-open the issue



Also, found this here http://www.nopitbullbans.com/

The Chicago Tribune seems to have waited until today, which also happens to be the day the Elgin City Council convenes, to publish the article, Elgin’s new animal law won’t cover 2 recent dog bites. The article is about just that: two recent incidents involving dogs in Elgin. Funny, because the Courier News reported on these incidents almost 10 days ago in their Police Blotter. So why now Tribune?
Also of note is that while the Courier News reported that one of the dogs in question in one of the attacks was a “loose dog of unknown breed,” the Tribune reported that the dog was a “pit bull mix.” Even more curious is that Kristie Hilton, who identified herself as an employee of the Elgin Police Department, posted on Facebook saying the dog in question was a Rhodesian Ridgeback/Boxer mix (two breeds commonly and erroneously called “pit bulls”).
But the final cherry on this lying, smearing crap of a sundae is that Councilman John Prigge will almost certainly use this fabrication to start pounding the “pit bull” ban drum yet again. He promised as much after expressing hope that there would be another incident:
We need to have another occurrence to happen…and then there’s no turning back.
We predicted there would be some fabricated “pit bull” attack, the pretense of which would be used to push a breed-specific amendment to Elgin’s existing animal control ordinance. (And the other incident supposedly involved a Rottweiler, so will Prigge add even more breeds to his breed-specific hit list?) The Lord knows how much we wanted to be wrong, but since we’ve seen this modus operandi time and time again, we knew it would happen just this way.
There is no doubt now that Elgin is a target city for breed-specific legislation (BSL). So, does that mean Prigge has been promised something (like say a generous campaign contribution for the next political office for which he intends to campaign) by the cockroach powers that be if he can get BSL passed? This is, after all, Illinois, home of Al Capone, pay-to-play politics, and corrupt government. Would any of us be surprised? It also wouldn’t be the first time the Tribune has engaged in a smear campaign against “pit bulls” to aid in the passage of some onerous legislation like a breed ban.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:51 PM   #18
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Don't get yourself sued for posting that.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:57 PM   #19
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I don't know how it works in Illinois, but here in MI city council/mayoral emails and text messages are public property even with those warnings (/wave @ Kwame Kilpatrick")
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:58 PM   #20
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That's good to know.
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