[Dweplyododo]

So last night, I went to a bonfire at my friends house who owns a pitbull of unknown breedings. I have told her many times that she needs to be more aware of what he does. I have given her cards to this site and have tried to educate her but she is quite a dense one. Ace is a very nice dog he is very sweet, but he is a pitbull and is DA. When we go to these parties everyone constantly brings their dogs to the house when we have bon fires. Its like a walking time bomb for poor Ace.

Usually Ace is okay with his key set of dogs. Our friend Michelle's collie mix Zoey, and Remy a chi mix. Well one of or friends brought her dogs Bear and (totally forgot the other dogs name) Bear is a corgie/collie mix weird looking dog. Well Ace did NOT like Bear. They got into one scuffle which ended quite quickly. Luckily i had a breakstick in the car. I explain that they need to be separated and that Ace is DA and he can't just be left alone with any dog because he is a pitbull. She explains to me "oh no he's fine.." I finally get my way when I make my friend who owns Bear keep him in the house and I take Ace outside with me.

Everything was fine for about and hour when my friend's husband decides Bear needs to come outside and that its unfair to keep them apart and out bear comes and there goes Ace taking off straight for Bear. They fight yet again. Jared grabs bear and gets bit and I insert break stick and pull Ace off. Then get into with Mike about how its going to be his fault when Ace is taken away by AC.

So I might have burnt a bridge of a friend but Its just horrible. Just needed to vent. I really like them as people but they are setting up their dogs for failure. Sorry about for the long post, I just needed to vent about it.

[77rexulceme]

Crappy situation, sorry you had to be in the middle of it trying to educate and getting nowhere. At least you had a breakstick, ugh!

[mbaueee]

I had to do that with a few people. Most recently with the boyfriend's brother. You can do only so much and can only make them listen if they are willing to. It really sucks that it will be her fault for setting her dog for failure but in the end the one that is going to be punished and blame is the dog. I wish people would research and learn about the breed the chose to own before they buy a dog and not after when they are having problems.

[immelawealecy]

Yeah, I feel for you.

Some people will never listen. A friend of Stan's was keeping his female and two young males in a pen together. I kept telling him that he needed to separate them, because they were getting close to a mature age. I told him it was very possible they'd end up fighting. He said, "Naa, they are brothers." His female came into heat. The two males fought pretty badly. He came home from work, and called me. I told him to bring his female over, so, that I could keep her in the barn, and told him to separate the males. He brought the female over, but kept the boys together, he thought they wouldn't fight since she was gone. The boys got into another fight. He calls me again, I told him to separate them and set-up some proper chain spots. I had to set them up, but he had the nerve to say, "No one told me this would happen." What?

[mbaueee]

I hate people who do not know what the f-ed up or not. Own your mistakes and learn from them. Do not pull the innocent act when people warn you. People like this makes me mad. Some people need not to own any animals.

[Dweplyododo]

Crappy situation, sorry you had to be in the middle of it trying to educate and getting nowhere. At least you had a breakstick, ugh!

thank god i did. I was like YES break stick for once I'm prepared at someone elses house.

I had to do that with a few people. Most recently with the boyfriend's brother. You can do only so much and can only make them listen if they are willing to. It really sucks that it will be her fault for setting her dog for failure but in the end the one that is going to be punished and blame is the dog. I wish people would research and learn about the breed the chose to own before they buy a dog and not after when they are having problems.

it just sucks to like burn a bridge of a good friend. I'm sure he'll get over it today. (alchohol makes everyone a little edgy) but poor Ace.. I just feel bad for Ace.

Yeah, I feel for you.

Some people will never listen. A friend of Stan's was keeping his female and two young males in a pen together. I kept telling him that he needed to separate them, because they were getting close to a mature age. I told him it was very possible they'd end up fighting. He said, "Naa, they are brothers." His female came into heat. The two males fought pretty badly. He came home from work, and called me. I told him to bring his female over, so, that I could keep her in the barn, and told him to separate the males. He brought the female over, but kept the boys together, he thought they wouldn't fight since she was gone. The boys got into another fight. He calls me again, I told him to separate them and set-up some proper chain spots. I had to set them up, but he had the nerve to say, "No one told me this would happen." What?

I know CHJ! I swear Ace is going to end up being taken. And she's going to be like " No one said he would do that"

[77rexulceme]

"No one told me this would happen." What?

Maybe he meant no one told him he'd go deaf at such an early age? I hate the he's never done that stories.

[mbaueee]

When friends do not listen to advice, I would like to shake them sometimes. I really what to shake them when they are doing something stupid and they will not understand your point a view from your experince. Some people just have to learn on their own and it sucks that it going to cost Ace in the long run.

[echocassidyde]

I feel you. Someone I used to be friends with has handled and witnessed the unexpected fights that happen, and despite everything I've shown them, still leave their dogs together 100% of the time, even when they go on vacation (which, btw, means their dogs have run of the house and a doggy door while they're not home for days).

Sorry you had to deal with that

[seosoftseo]

I am in the same boat with a long time friend who is old enough to be my dad and has been kind of a surrogate dad for years. He took in a Pit that is male and over a year old named Buddy. He also took in a Pit pup thats just hitting 7 months old named Petey. Buddy is an angel but Petey needs a firmer hand as he has instigated fights and tried to bite people, succeeding in leaving scratches but no broken skin. I keep telling my friend not to leave the boys unattended and to neuter them both plus work on training Petey so he will know who is boss and to keep the average asshat that comes over from petting him until his issues are under control. Does he do any of it? Nooooo. So, I am waiting to hear AC got called and the dogs are taken.

Earlier this year my sisters Pit and my brothers Pit got into a fight. My sister, her husband, my brother, his fiancee and a friend all live in the same house with their dogs and kids. My sister has 4 kids, my brother 2 kids and they are all under 8 years old. They also have a total of 5 Pits at the house. The dogs my sister and her husband own are out of control and badly in need of training. They also could use a neuter. Two of the males fight and my sister got bitten trying to break it up. I have talked to them til I am blue in the face about training, spay/neuter and keeping the dog seperated. Pretty easy since they live out in the country and have an old stable they converted into an indoor kennel with a fenced outdoor dog run plus the dogs come in the house throughout the day and at night. Wouldn't be hard to keep the boys seperate and in the house on a rotational basis until my broher moves out. Do they listen? Noooo, they think they have it all under control even though a week doesn't go by without me getting a call about another fight. In addition, one of the kids visiting with her mother let the dogs out and they had a visit from AC while they were trying to find my sisters male. Just waiting for the call to come that one or all dogs was taken.

I feel ya, Imwst18, I really do. Wishing people had to take an IQ or some type of common sense test before getting a Pit.

[Karinochka]

So last night, I went to a bonfire at my friends house who owns a pitbull of unknown breedings. I have told her many times that she needs to be more aware of what he does. I have given her cards to this site and have tried to educate her but she is quite a dense one. Ace is a very nice dog he is very sweet, but he is a pitbull and is DA. When we go to these parties everyone constantly brings their dogs to the house when we have bon fires. Its like a walking time bomb for poor Ace.

Usually Ace is okay with his key set of dogs. Our friend Michelle's collie mix Zoey, and Remy a chi mix. Well one of or friends brought her dogs Bear and (totally forgot the other dogs name) Bear is a corgie/collie mix weird looking dog. Well Ace did NOT like Bear. They got into one scuffle which ended quite quickly. Luckily i had a breakstick in the car. I explain that they need to be separated and that Ace is DA and he can't just be left alone with any dog because he is a pitbull. She explains to me "oh no he's fine.." I finally get my way when I make my friend who owns Bear keep him in the house and I take Ace outside with me.

Everything was fine for about and hour when my friend's husband decides Bear needs to come outside and that its unfair to keep them apart and out bear comes and there goes Ace taking off straight for Bear. They fight yet again. Jared grabs bear and gets bit and I insert break stick and pull Ace off. Then get into with Mike about how its going to be his fault when Ace is taken away by AC.

So I might have burnt a bridge of a friend but Its just horrible. Just needed to vent. I really like them as people but they are setting up their dogs for failure. Sorry about for the long post, I just needed to vent about it.

Who bit Jared, Bear or Ace? I am hoping the involved ACO will handle this the way my ACO did when my mals got in a nasty ass fight and the larger mal mauled me up pretty good, in the face.I fell into the middle of the fight,whilst trying to break it up. Now granted the larger mal-was HA(and was euthed for it) But at the time, the ACO said because it was during a dog/dog fight-they didn't feel the bite was due to outright human aggression. So at that point he was not deemed a ''dangerous'' dog,and I was permitted to keep him,without much concern.
I feel bad for Ace,Bear,and your friends,and I hope all turns out ok. Ignorance is bliss,only to a point.Yet another situation that will turn into a train wreck,due to owner incompetance. Sadly,the dogs will pay the price-through NO fault of their own.

[Rjvpicux]

Ive had a sort of similiar thing happen once when at a bonfire. had my dog leashed, and a friend of a friend pit bull also showed up, also on a leash. well these random ass people with their pit bull puppy come down and start making their own bonfire next to us, not paying ANY attention to this 10lb puppy running straight toward us to play with our dogs. knowing that the other pit bull at ours was VERY DA, i ran, picked the puppy up, and told them to put their mutt on a leash before the dog at our spot eats him for dinner. they reply to me, "youre crazy do you know anything about pit bulls? they arent mean and i dont believe that dog up there is either. its all in how you raise them!" i called her an idiot and told her to PLEASE leash the puppy. Well guess what? they didnt. luckily for her, the other pit bull scared the pup off the second time he ran over that the pup got the hint and ran back to his spot.

ANYWAYs, that was just the begininng. as everyone got drunk at our bon fire, the other guy hanging out with us got trashed. he decided that it would be fun to agitate his dog into wanting to attack mine, and let the dog go. luckily for me my friend grabbed hold of the dogs leash before the dog got close to me. I left.

anyway, not really the SAME situation, but all i have to say is, drunk people + pit bulls = BAD NEWS. I wont even stick around anymore. lol

[immelawealecy]

I wanted to add that stories like this and seeing things like that are one of the main reasons my dogs don't go to family events or friend events with me. I know I can control my dog(s), but I am not so sure about others.

[mbaueee]

My dogs hardly leave the house. They got to the vet, maybe take a ride to the gas station and they go for their walks. I do not trust the people in my neighborhood or people in general to know how to manage their dogs. So it is easier for me to leave them at home instead having choas in the future by bringing them somewhere.

[Dweplyododo]

I feel you. Someone I used to be friends with has handled and witnessed the unexpected fights that happen, and despite everything I've shown them, still leave their dogs together 100% of the time, even when they go on vacation (which, btw, means their dogs have run of the house and a doggy door while they're not home for days).

Sorry you had to deal with that

Its okay.. Hopefully I can get through to her.

I am in the same boat with a long time friend who is old enough to be my dad and has been kind of a surrogate dad for years. He took in a Pit that is male and over a year old named Buddy. He also took in a Pit pup thats just hitting 7 months old named Petey. Buddy is an angel but Petey needs a firmer hand as he has instigated fights and tried to bite people, succeeding in leaving scratches but no broken skin. I keep telling my friend not to leave the boys unattended and to neuter them both plus work on training Petey so he will know who is boss and to keep the average asshat that comes over from petting him until his issues are under control. Does he do any of it? Nooooo. So, I am waiting to hear AC got called and the dogs are taken.

Earlier this year my sisters Pit and my brothers Pit got into a fight. My sister, her husband, my brother, his fiancee and a friend all live in the same house with their dogs and kids. My sister has 4 kids, my brother 2 kids and they are all under 8 years old. They also have a total of 5 Pits at the house. The dogs my sister and her husband own are out of control and badly in need of training. They also could use a neuter. Two of the males fight and my sister got bitten trying to break it up. I have talked to them til I am blue in the face about training, spay/neuter and keeping the dog seperated. Pretty easy since they live out in the country and have an old stable they converted into an indoor kennel with a fenced outdoor dog run plus the dogs come in the house throughout the day and at night. Wouldn't be hard to keep the boys seperate and in the house on a rotational basis until my broher moves out. Do they listen? Noooo, they think they have it all under control even though a week doesn't go by without me getting a call about another fight. In addition, one of the kids visiting with her mother let the dogs out and they had a visit from AC while they were trying to find my sisters male. Just waiting for the call to come that one or all dogs was taken.

I feel ya, Imwst18, I really do. Wishing people had to take an IQ or some type of common sense test before getting a Pit.

I'm so sorry for your situation as well. Why do people set their dogs up for failure!?

Who bit Jared, Bear or Ace? I am hoping the involved ACO will handle this the way my ACO did when my mals got in a nasty ass fight and the larger mal mauled me up pretty good, in the face.I fell into the middle of the fight,whilst trying to break it up. Now granted the larger mal-was HA(and was euthed for it) But at the time, the ACO said because it was during a dog/dog fight-they didn't feel the bite was due to outright human aggression. So at that point he was not deemed a ''dangerous'' dog,and I was permitted to keep him,without much concern.
I feel bad for Ace,Bear,and your friends,and I hope all turns out ok. Ignorance is bliss,only to a point.Yet another situation that will turn into a train wreck,due to owner incompetance. Sadly,the dogs will pay the price-through NO fault of their own.

Bear bit Jared.. and Bear is Jared's dog. and in all honesty, he shouldn't have reached in with his arm right by their mouths. I know he meant well to get them out of the situation but he should have just grabbed bears collar and wait until i got ace with the break stick.
I'm so sorry about your mal

Ive had a sort of similiar thing happen once when at a bonfire. had my dog leashed, and a friend of a friend pit bull also showed up, also on a leash. well these random ass people with their pit bull puppy come down and start making their own bonfire next to us, not paying ANY attention to this 10lb puppy running straight toward us to play with our dogs. knowing that the other pit bull at ours was VERY DA, i ran, picked the puppy up, and told them to put their mutt on a leash before the dog at our spot eats him for dinner. they reply to me, "youre crazy do you know anything about pit bulls? they arent mean and i dont believe that dog up there is either. its all in how you raise them!" i called her an idiot and told her to PLEASE leash the puppy. Well guess what? they didnt. luckily for her, the other pit bull scared the pup off the second time he ran over that the pup got the hint and ran back to his spot.

ANYWAYs, that was just the begininng. as everyone got drunk at our bon fire, the other guy hanging out with us got trashed. he decided that it would be fun to agitate his dog into wanting to attack mine, and let the dog go. luckily for me my friend grabbed hold of the dogs leash before the dog got close to me. I left.

anyway, not really the SAME situation, but all i have to say is, drunk people + pit bulls = BAD NEWS. I wont even stick around anymore. lol

It wasnt even the alchohol.. it was just irresponsibility.

---------- Post added at 11:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 AM ----------

My dogs get boarded when i leave and they have strict instructions with them. The poor people I board them with must think i'm a bitch

[mbaueee]

At least you get the job done and your point across being a bitch then being walked over. LOL

[Dweplyododo]

True.. I don't want to get a phone call that they let my dogs out with other dogs and then i get stuck with a vet bill for someone elses dog.

[cakaeroryrere]

Wow this sounds like my neighbors...So very unfortunate...

I kept telling him that he needed to separate them, because they were getting close to a mature age. I told him it was very possible they'd end up fighting. He said, "Naa, they are brothers." His female came into heat.

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Dear god! I have never really heard of a situation where if kept with a female in heat two studs of any breed will not get into it! It has also been my experience that same sex litter mates will fight more frequently after maturity than non litter mates. I do not know about APBT's as much, but growing up we would never place two same sex litter mates with the same family. There is always going to be a dominance contest between to very similar male dogs and so with litter mates, wow talk about a lit fuse.

[seosoftseo]

Alli Cat, responsible owners who have researched the APBT or any of the "bully breeds" know that two dogs of the same sex have a greater chance of fighting and that Dog Aggression in general is pretty common sometime before or after maturity. Its generally accepted that its best to get one of each sex in effort to lessen the chances of fighting. I know some people who have more than one of the same sex and have no problems, but I know a lot more ABPT owners who have more than one and live by crate and rotate. I also know people who have multiple Pits and have never had a problem, but still err on the side of caution and never leave their dogs loose together unattended.

I have an APBT and an AB. ABPT is female and AB is a male. I would honestly love to adopt another of either breed, but mine get along and I don't want to rock the boat

[gusunsuth]

My friends that have pits that I bring my dogs around are thankfully responsible about their dogs, even while drinking.

The ones who aren't so responsible, well, I actually almost never see them. But I get so pissed when I'm around them, and I see how they're screwing these poor dogs by being stupid and childish, and not wanting to listen to anyone or put any work into them, that it's not even worth hanging out with them. Apparently putting your dogs on leashes, basic training, and proper nutrition is just too much work. I hate those idiots.

I'd become a hermit if I didn't have my responsible friends.