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Old 05-26-2010, 07:40 PM   #1
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Default Obama & Bibi - round 2
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...p/rubin/301211
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...obama-1.292238
From news article:
As a colleague wryly remarks: “Wow—the fundraising must really be in catastrophic condition.” Yes, one suspects that has a role in the “charm offensive.” Here’s the thing, though: for Obama to really repair the damage he has done, he’d have to make dramatic changes in policy (e.g., give a speech saying military force remains an option, give Israel the same pledge of full support he extended to South Korea, cease the demands for unilateral concessions from Israel, loudly condemn continuing instances of Palestinian incitement, block Iran’s participation in UN committees and commissions, walk out of the UN Human Rights Council). Or maybe he figures he can avoid any substantive change in policy and get back in the good graces of American Jewry. It may be a savvy calculation.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:11 AM   #2
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I think Bibi should be polite and respectful but give away NOTHING of substance. I repeat, N-O-T-H-I-N-G ...
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:49 AM   #3
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Honestly, we have no idea what's really going on in all these closed-door meetings and there's not really a whole lot of use speculating about it. It will be interesting to see what Obama does different this time, though.
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:42 AM   #4
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Honestly, we have no idea what's really going on in all these closed-door meetings and there's not really a whole lot of use speculating about it. It will be interesting to see what Obama does different this time, though
I believe there is a lot of truth in the saying:
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:08 AM   #5
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Probably. There's also a lot of truth in the saying "an apple a day keeps the doctor away", but I am not sure it is applicable here.

What exactly do you mean?
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:26 AM   #6
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This is what I mean:

Obama speech to AIPAC in 2008

In his first foreign policy speech since clinching the Democratic nomination in the U.S. presidential race Tuesday, Barack Obama asssured the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) Wednesday that he would not allow Iran to acquire nuclear arms, and that Jerusalem would remain the undivided capital of Israel Rings a bit hollow now doesn't it?

Ok so he fooled us then. Should we allow ourselves to be fooled again?
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