[eCw56dzY]

We are all familiar with the "reporting" that comes out of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. nowadays. The strident repetition of American losses, constant Monday-morning quarterbacking of mistakes, demands for the heads of those in charge, while glossing over or completely ignoring victories and the effect of operations on the enemy. Toss in a few revelations of strategic information valuable to the enemy, and you have our typical modern-day "reporting" pattern.

If the modern liberal press had to report on what had happend on, say, the Battle of Midway, it might go something like this.

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http://www.strategypage.com/humor/ar..._200510220.asp

Midway Island Demolished. Yorktown, destroyer sunk.
Many US planes lost

June 7, 1942

The United States Navy suffered another blow in its attempt to stem the Japanese juggernaut ravaging the Pacific Ocean. Midway Island, perhaps the most vital U.S. outpost, was pummeled by Japanese Naval aviators. The defending U.S. forces, consisting primarily of antique Buffalo fighters, were competely wiped out while the Japanese attackers suffered few, if any, losses.

In a nearby naval confrontation, the Japanese successfully attacked the Yorktown which was later sunk by a Japanese submarine. A destroyer lashed to the Yorktown was also sunk.

American forces claim to have sunk four Japanese carriers and the cruiser Mogami but those claims were vehemently denied by the Emporer's spokeman.

The American carriers lost an entire squadron of torpedo planes when they failed to link up with fighter escorts. The dive bombers had fighter escort even though they weren't engaged by enemy fighters. The War Dept. refused to answer when asked why the fighters were assigned to the wrong attack groups. The Hornet lost a large number of planes when they couldn't locate the enemy task force. Despite this cavalcade of errors, Admirals Fletcher and Spruance have not been removed.

Code Broken

The failure at Midway is even more disheartening because the U.S. Navy knew the Japanese were coming. Secret documents provided to the NY Times showed that "Magic" intercepts showed the Japanese planned to attack Midway, which they called "AF".

Obsolete Equipment

Some critics blamed the failure at Midway on the use of obsolete aircraft. The inappropriately named Devastator torpedo planes proved no match for the Japanese fighters. Even the Avengers, its schedule replacements, were riddled with bullets and rendered unflyable. Secretary of War Stimson dodged the question saying simply: "You go to war with the Navy you have, not the Navy you want or would like to have". Critics immediately called for his resignation.

[exschke]

HE IS RIGHT! We need more propaganda. Need I mention that WWII was against nations who actually had WMDs?

[Faumpiggueria]

We are all familiar with the "reporting" that comes out of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. nowadays. The strident repetition of American losses, constant Monday-morning quarterbacking of mistakes, demands for the heads of those in charge, while glossing over or completely ignoring victories and the effect of operations on the enemy. Toss in a few revelations of strategic information valuable to the enemy, and you have our typical modern-day "reporting" pattern.

If the modern liberal press had to report on what had happend on, say, the Battle of Midway, it might go something like this.

---------------------------

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/ar..._200510220.asp

Midway Island Demolished. Yorktown, destroyer sunk.
Many US planes lost

June 7, 1942

The United States Navy suffered another blow in its attempt to stem the Japanese juggernaut ravaging the Pacific Ocean. Midway Island, perhaps the most vital U.S. outpost, was pummeled by Japanese Naval aviators. The defending U.S. forces, consisting primarily of antique Buffalo fighters, were competely wiped out while the Japanese attackers suffered few, if any, losses.

In a nearby naval confrontation, the Japanese successfully attacked the Yorktown which was later sunk by a Japanese submarine. A destroyer lashed to the Yorktown was also sunk.

American forces claim to have sunk four Japanese carriers and the cruiser Mogami but those claims were vehemently denied by the Emporer's spokeman.

The American carriers lost an entire squadron of torpedo planes when they failed to link up with fighter escorts. The dive bombers had fighter escort even though they weren't engaged by enemy fighters. The War Dept. refused to answer when asked why the fighters were assigned to the wrong attack groups. The Hornet lost a large number of planes when they couldn't locate the enemy task force. Despite this cavalcade of errors, Admirals Fletcher and Spruance have not been removed.

Code Broken

The failure at Midway is even more disheartening because the U.S. Navy knew the Japanese were coming. Secret documents provided to the NY Times showed that "Magic" intercepts showed the Japanese planned to attack Midway, which they called "AF".

Obsolete Equipment

Some critics blamed the failure at Midway on the use of obsolete aircraft. The inappropriately named Devastator torpedo planes proved no match for the Japanese fighters. Even the Avengers, its schedule replacements, were riddled with bullets and rendered unflyable. Secretary of War Stimson dodged the question saying simply: "You go to war with the Navy you have, not the Navy you want or would like to have". Critics immediately called for his resignation.

Bemused giggles. Um... wasn't FDR running the show back then... America's most famous liberal? And weren't US conservatives frothing mad at that time at the insanity of US involvement in WW2? Particularly Republicans, now that I think about it...

Kinda makes your assertion here look like the partisan fantasy bullshit that it is, now doesn't it?

Perhaps you should focus more or Nam for Iraq examples... seems much more applicable... and we can then talk about all those 'increasing body counts' that 'proved' the USA was winning that one... all the way untill they lost... and how hiding the photographs of US service coffins really changes everything...

[irrelaAnnekly]

HE IS RIGHT! We need more propaganda. Need I mention that WWII was against nations who actually had WMDs?

Hitler didn't use nearly the amount of WMDs that Saddam did.

[SkatrySkith]

Hitler didn't use nearly the amount of WMDs that Saddam did.

Perhaps because the USA wasn't kind enough to supply any to Adolph...

[BrainTop]

Hitler didn't use nearly the amount of WMDs that Saddam did.

Can you back up this?
In any case, what is clear is that when the USA entered the war, Hitler was still a huge threat(unlike, say, another mustached dictator). And he did had WMDs and there are many reports that he was ACTUALLY developping nuclear bombs.

[Emedgella]

Perhaps because the USA wasn't kind enough to supply any to Adolph...

We didn't supply them to Saddam either. What's your point?

[8Uxtkz7F]

The media was on FDR's side because he was the most leftist president this country has ever had, who happened to be fighting a right-wing threat.