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Old 11-02-2005, 11:00 PM   #13
uncoosesoge

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This is bullshit. There are plenty of major US companies that use nothing but legal immigrants or Americans.
It's precisely as Chas said. These illegals come over here sucking up our resources without putting anything back into the system. Euro, did you know that pregnant women come across the border illegally, hide out, wait until they're in labor and then rush to the American hospitals. Then the kid they have is an American citizen that American taxpayers must support until he's out of high school. The US could save billions of taxpayers' dollars by stopping the illegals at the border and by making these pregnant women stay in Mexico to have their kids!
I think we should put up a wall from Texas to California and shoot anyone that tries to come across.
Well, I don't advocate a turkey shoot , but Europe doesn't put up with birth scams either. In fact, the US is far more liberal with its citizenship laws insofar as granting automatic citizenship merely because someone is born in the US (foreign diplomats' children being the sole rare exception if no US jurisdiction attaches to them).

Ireland just overwhelmingly passed a national referendum removing the right to citizenship for any children born by illegals and bogus asylum petitioners who were evading proper immigration channels by using 'baby birth scams.' Women were flying into Ireland pregnant, giving birth in Ireland (at taxpayer expense), and using the children's automatic Irish citizenship--hence EU citizenship too-- to get legal residence in Ireland and then Irish and EU legal residence and/or citizenship for themselves so they could travel and settle anywhere in the EU and get all its benefits and those of its member states, including but not limited to free health care, free housing and dole (welfare) money.

Ireland was the only country in the EU that allowed the mere fact of birth by itself to be an automatically sufficient reason for citizenship. Other EU nations were furious at the scam given it was affecting them given some would have the child and then promptly move to the target destination in their own countries using the child's Irish/EU passport, and the Irish immigration system was being circumvented causing tremendous pressures on its social systems. 4/5 of the Irish finally voted for citizenship reform to stop that abuse.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3801839.stm

And US comment on it...

http://www.usbc.org/profiles/2004pro...gotitright.htm

And here is what Irish people were saying about the scam--sound familiar?

http://www.rte.ie/comments/citizenshipref.html
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