[GuitarLoverBe]

Wow, this is just like porn for the ultra left. You can read about the indictment and "entertain" yourselves.

If Libby did what he is accused of, he should go to jail. But the hyperbole being spewed by the ultra leftists is pretty funny. Glad you fellows are enjoying this so much. Need a Kleenex?

Matt

That's right, I'm enjoying it. Ciminal scum betting beat down. I love it. It is 100% unjoyable. Too bad, so sad, the scum bags you support are going down

[D6b2v1HA]

As long as they don't keep on supporting the liars on their way down. That would be so sad. Liar lovers unite! LOL!

[kenowinnumberss]

Been pretty busy, but here are my thoughts on today's developments:

I was really impressed with Fitzgerald -- so very by the book and professional. No one on either side of the debate should be questioning his motives or the job he did. I was disappointed that I only got a scooter for Fitzmas, but it sounds like a very methodically laid out case that is strong on its face. Fitzgerald did not give the Bush administration a clean bill of health today, so no republican should be thinking their boys are in the clear. Fitzgerald ethically and by-the-book let us know that there was a serious breach of national security due to the actions of the Bush administration regardless of what the charges are today.

Fitzgerald confirmed Plame's classified status and that her cover was blown. He also confirmed that damage had been done. One or more of the elements of the espionage law probably couldn't be supported to the level he demanded -- thus no charge.

I seem to remember that the Bush administration promised to not only do what is legal, but what is right. This was an obvious slam against Clinton and an attempt to be judged above Clinton's actions. Today, no one can claim that the Bush administration did the right thing in this Valerie Plame case.

Next week I think we will have the SCOTUS appointment dominate the news cycles for awhile. A ultra-conservative will be nominated and it will set off a huge fight. Meanwhile, Scooter will plead guilty to avoid a trial knowing Bush will pardon him. There is a chance that this is the end of the road or it could be chapter 1 of a story that will continue to unfold and erupt from time to time during the 2006 and 2008 election.

There is blood in the water. I have heard the Bush presidency be described as showing signs of weakness or being in the midst of a tactical retreat. Just goes to show that one man's weakness is another's idea of tactical retreat.
The deal is that the post-9/11 honeymoon with the unquestioning press and the Bush administration is over. There is a credibility gap and republicans can no longer claim moral authority.

Libby's charges reveal something to the world that I knew all along, we cannot trust what anybody in the Bush administration says on things that matter. Sure, I will never trust Clinton when he says he never had sex with that woman or any other woman, but that is about it. We cannot trust the Bush administration on the stuff we should -- national security. For that, no one should be celebrating.

I have to admit that this investigation has become very interesting. Right now I'm looking into Gangsterland trials to have fun and make some comparisons. Fitzgerald appears to be very methodical and diligent and he hinted an element of old school style prosecuting. Of course the obvious posters will disagree, but I feel that Fitzgerald is creating pawns and setting them up in place to uncover more than just the skin of the investigation.

Novak turned. Wurmser turned. Forgot the name of the other VP aide, but he turned also.

I do feel that Libby has the goods on Rove, he's trying to get the goods because I believe that Rove is centerpiece to this whole cabal. I'm not saying that Rove is the mastermind, I'm just saying that Rove is the mind that makes it all possible. Once you get Rove, you get everyone. I don't think Fitzgerald wants Rove himself, I think Fitzgerarld wants him to turn evidence.

Like I said, I'm viewing this as a good old gangland trail with all the spine-tingling elements in it. I have to admit, as bad as this investigation potrays America, this is one hell of a show. Very very tantalizing.

[AbraxiaAsus]

I just see it as a good thing that the liars and creeps are being weeded out. I hope Fitz gets them all.

[xochgtlm]

That's right, I'm enjoying it. Ciminal scum betting beat down. I love it. It is 100% unjoyable. Too bad, so sad, the scum bags you support are going down

The punishment of criminals is not about revenge, but rather it is about protection and deterrence. Assuming the implicated parties are guilty, taking pleasure makes no sense - you should be relieved, if anything.

[sbrthrds]

The punishment of criminals is not about revenge, but rather it is about protection and deterrence. Assuming the implicated parties are guilty, taking pleasure makes no sense - you should be relieved, if anything.

How about justice? Which on the otherhand deters and protects the public. I've heard Wilson's wife has been getting threats.

[BDDkDvgZ]

How about justice? Which on the otherhand deters and protects the public. I've heard Wilson's wife has been getting threats.

LOL that your halloween costume pic in your signature? That's pimp. Funny.

[LoohornePharp]

Been pretty busy, but here are my thoughts on today's developments:

I was really impressed with Fitzgerald -- so very by the book and professional. No one on either side of the debate should be questioning his motives or the job he did. I was disappointed that I only got a scooter for Fitzmas, but it sounds like a very methodically laid out case that is strong on its face. Fitzgerald did not give the Bush administration a clean bill of health today, so no republican should be thinking their boys are in the clear. Fitzgerald ethically and by-the-book let us know that there was a serious breach of national security due to the actions of the Bush administration regardless of what the charges are today.

Yes we should wait until there's actual proof a crime was committed before we condemn anyone.

Fitzgerald confirmed Plame's classified status and that her cover was blown. He also confirmed that damage had been done. One or more of the elements of the espionage law probably couldn't be supported to the level he demanded -- thus no charge. What part of the interview did you hear that in? Fitz not once said Plame was a covert op.

I seem to remember that the Bush administration promised to not only do what is legal, but what is right. This was an obvious slam against Clinton and an attempt to be judged above Clinton's actions. Today, no one can claim that the Bush administration did the right thing in this Valerie Plame case. Again does the burden of proof not lie with the prosecution? And to date there is absolutely no evidence a crime has been committed, other than a "misstatement" to the press. Remember an indictment and conviction are vastly different.

Next week I think we will have the SCOTUS appointment dominate the news cycles for awhile. A ultra-conservative will be nominated and it will set off a huge fight. Meanwhile, Scooter will plead guilty to avoid a trial knowing Bush will pardon him. There is a chance that this is the end of the road or it could be chapter 1 of a story that will continue to unfold and erupt from time to time during the 2006 and 2008 election. Ultra-conservative? Oh you mean someone who doesn't believe the way you do, probably believes in God as well.

There is blood in the water. I have heard the Bush presidency be described as showing signs of weakness or being in the midst of a tactical retreat. Just goes to show that one man's weakness is another's idea of tactical retreat.
The deal is that the post-9/11 honeymoon with the unquestioning press and the Bush administration is over. There is a credibility gap and republicans can no longer claim moral authority. Unquestioning press? Is that the same press that lied about Bush and cost Dan Rather his job? Republicans don't have to claim moral authority. All they have to do is encourage the liberals to speak louder. With each passing day moderates flee from what the rabid liberals have created in the Democratic party; clearly evidenced by recent election results.

Libby's charges reveal something to the world that I knew all along, we cannot trust what anybody in the Bush administration says on things that matter. Sure, I will never trust Clinton when he says he never had sex with that woman or any other woman, but that is about it. We cannot trust the Bush administration on the stuff we should -- national security. For that, no one should be celebrating. You, along with every other whacked out liberal, have screamed from day one about how bad Bush is from his first election to the present. The fact is despite his faults Bush is a moral god fearing man. This alone is a major reason why the immoral left despise him. He doesn't drink, anymore, he doesn't party like the Clintons. He simply prays for the guidance to do what's best for the citizens of this great nation. Incidentally this is also why liberals need to put forth the myth that the republicans have lost their "moral authority." If Bush has taught us nothing else he's shown us the vitriolic hatred that emanates from the left and how best to deal with them; don't debate them because facts and truth they could care less about, simply encourage them to speak openly and loudly about their beliefs. Moderates flee from that kind of rhetoric.

Varus

[DumErrory]

SO after two years, and hours and hours of testimony all they got was obstruction?

two years and its just the tip of the iceberg?

No its all he could come up with. He said She said BS, if i can coin a phrase.

No crime, you cant indict someone for a lesser offence, thats what he is on trial for, no more no less.

You libs lose, face it, your christmas came but the grinch stole it. Rove testified for Four hours days before the indictment and he gets nothing. Times up on this.

At least wait and see what Libby lied about, my guess is when people get to know libby, they will like him.

I agree that the more they( the left) speak the more they out themselves for who they really are.

Who would have thought a lib would take the side of a CIA agent over that of a Reporter. Who would have thought that Libby would be considered guilty without a trial, Rove without charges, Delay for absurity.

You have bought into fantasy and are trying to pretend its really happening.

Well its not.

[PHOTOSHOPoem]

Who would have thought a lib would take the side of a CIA agent over that of a Reporter. Who would have thought that Libby would be considered guilty without a trial, Rove without charges, Delay for absurity.

You have bought into fantasy and are trying to pretend its really happening.

Well its not.

Just as you have bought into the fantasy that the American people actually elected your hero Bush even once, let alone twice.

Well they didn't. And every poll shows how obvious that is.

[RsQhyZyR]

Just as you have bought into the fantasy that the American people actually elected your hero Bush even once, let alone twice.

Well they didn't. And every poll shows how obvious that is.

People could have changed their minds about Bush since last November. Or, people could still have though he sucked back then, but thought Kerry was a worse choice.

The polls today don't concretely show anything about the election result.

Matt

[Unamannuato]

People could have changed their minds about Bush since last November. Or, people could still have though he sucked back then, but thought Kerry was a worse choice.

Of course. God forbid anything dishonest happened in our great democracy's process.

[flowersnewacq]

Of course. God forbid anything dishonest happened in our great democracy's process.

God forbid the simpler explaination is the correct one and the sexy conspiracy-to-steal-the-election-ohmygod-halliburton-controls-the-US explaination should be utter nonsense.

Matt

[Patamuta]

I guess we'll never know. Will we?

(Convenient, huh?)

[overavantstandard]

Nope, we'll never know. Which leads us back to the simpler explaination.

Matt

[avodeinst]

Nope, we'll never know. Which leads us back to the simpler explaination.

Agreed: Diebold fixed the election. Just like they implicity promised to do. Seems like a simple enough explanation to most Americans.

[Sydaycymn]

Sigh. We'll agree to disagree.

Matt

[Pedsshuth]

Hey buddy, It only blows up from here. It will reveal that the War in Iraq was all a lie.

I'm curious .. it seems that you are rather overjoyed that Fitzgerald is an honest and outstanding investigator ... yet, in the news conference he gave last Friday, he specifically said this:

This indictment is not about the war. This indictment's not about the propriety of the war. And people who believe fervently in the war effort, people who oppose it, people who have mixed feelings about it should not look to this indictment for any resolution of how they feel or any vindication of how they feel....The indictment will not seek to prove that the war was justified or unjustified. This is stripped of that debate, and this is focused on a narrow transaction. And I think anyone who's concerned about the war and has feelings for or against shouldn't look to this criminal process for any answers or resolution of that.

What's this say about your "this will prove the war was a lie" comment?