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Old 10-28-2005, 05:55 PM   #1
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No partison bull. Just the truth. His only drive is to find the truth.

I love it.

He isn't registered to any political party. He just goes after the truth.

What a breath of fresh air.

In this day and age of neocon filth, this is simply amazing.

Scooter got caught knowing and intentionally lying to cover up the outing of the CIA agent, and he is going to be slammed for it.

But it sure makes you think, right quickly, "why would Scooter lie? What was he trying to cover up?"

This will reach Rove and Cheney.

Awesome, just awesome
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:04 PM   #2
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Merry Fitzmas!

I agree. Nothing better than a Republican prosecutor to go after bad people in his own party, it kinda puts the freeze on any right wing rhetoric and it's awesome.

Fitzgerald gets it right and is doing his job right. He's not trying to push half-assed indictments. He takes his time and goes into detail to make solid indictments stick.

No convictions yet? Yes, yes, well undestood, but five indictments! Five indictments is pretty solid, how can anyone not see a conviction?
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:36 PM   #3
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Wow, this is just like porn for the ultra left. You can read about the indictment and "entertain" yourselves.

If Libby did what he is accused of, he should go to jail. But the hyperbole being spewed by the ultra leftists is pretty funny. Glad you fellows are enjoying this so much. Need a Kleenex?

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Old 10-28-2005, 06:56 PM   #4
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Wow, this is just like porn for the ultra left. You can read about the indictment and "entertain" yourselves.

If Libby did what he is accused of, he should go to jail. But the hyperbole being spewed by the ultra leftists is pretty funny. Glad you fellows are enjoying this so much. Need a Kleenex?

Matt
Hey buddy, It only blows up from here. It will reveal that the War in Iraq was all a lie.
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:10 PM   #5
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Hey buddy, It only blows up from here. It will reveal that the War in Iraq was all a lie.
It is?!? Did Dubya "wag the dog" on us? Or, perhaps, the rationale "was all a lie"...?
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:28 PM   #6
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I wonder how long it will be before some 12-year-old girl makes a post on this thread implying that Fitzgerald might be gay?
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:35 PM   #7
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I wonder how long it will be before some 12-year-old girl makes a post on this thread implying that Fitzgerald might be gay?
How old are you?
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:36 PM   #8
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How old are you?
Not that it's any of your business, but old enough to do everything legally.
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:39 PM   #9
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Regardless of the outcome, I was impressed with Fitzgerald, and have been for a while if only because this investigation was kept truly secret. Certainly people who testified spoke out, and they are not prohibited from doing so.

But the investigation was devoid of "sources close to the prosecution state" articles. And I'm glad they did away with the "report" if no charges are filed against those that become subjects of the investigation.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:01 PM   #10
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How old are you?
You may crack jokes about it but you can be sure that the Rove machine is getting ready to pour some manure over Fitz...
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:19 PM   #11
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Regardless of the outcome, I was impressed with Fitzgerald, and have been for a while if only because this investigation was kept truly secret. Certainly people who testified spoke out, and they are not prohibited from doing so.

But the investigation was devoid of "sources close to the prosecution state" articles. And I'm glad they did away with the "report" if no charges are filed against those that become subjects of the investigation.
I agree. Fitzgerald was refreshingly professional...a pleasure to see such an open and honest press conference.

Now , if the Republicans in Congress will only do the same and commence hearings on the compromising of national security, the with-holding of intelligence regarding WMD, and the fake Niger documents.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:25 PM   #12
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I have a question. How did Fitz get the authority to launch the inventigation? Who decides this? We need a few more investigations into this whitehouse if you asked me.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:36 PM   #13
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You may crack jokes about it but you can be sure that the Rove machine is getting ready to pour some manure over Fitz...
Rove isn't stupid.

Fitzgerald has been a "star" in the US Attorney's Office for years.

He became an Assistant US Attorney in 1988, served through the Bush I and Clinton Administrations, and was nominated as the US Attorney for the ND of Illinois in Sept 2001. His confirmation was unanimous.

His "official" DOJ resume is rock solid.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/aboutu...fizgerald.html
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:43 PM   #14
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I agree. Fitzgerald was refreshingly professional...a pleasure to see such an open and honest press conference.

Now , if the Republicans in Congress will only do the same and commence hearings on the compromising of national security, the with-holding of intelligence regarding WMD, and the fake Niger documents.
They won't, because to them, being in power is everything and they WILL swipe anything under a thick rug that might compromise their re-election.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:44 PM   #15
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I have a question. How did Fitz get the authority to launch the inventigation? Who decides this? We need a few more investigations into this whitehouse if you asked me.
John Ashcroft(!) appointed him for this job.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:55 PM   #16
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John Ashcroft(!) appointed him for this job.
He was appointed by then Deputy AG James Comey. Ashcroft recused himself.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:01 PM   #17
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He was appointed by then Deputy AG James Comey. Ashcroft recused himself.
Really? I thought he had. I stand corrected, sir, and thank you for the information.

Still, though, Ashcroft recused himself, which is probaly one of his few (his only? ) good deeds in office.
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:18 AM   #18
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Been pretty busy, but here are my thoughts on today's developments:

I was really impressed with Fitzgerald -- so very by the book and professional. No one on either side of the debate should be questioning his motives or the job he did. I was disappointed that I only got a scooter for Fitzmas, but it sounds like a very methodically laid out case that is strong on its face. Fitzgerald did not give the Bush administration a clean bill of health today, so no republican should be thinking their boys are in the clear. Fitzgerald ethically and by-the-book let us know that there was a serious breach of national security due to the actions of the Bush administration regardless of what the charges are today.

Fitzgerald confirmed Plame's classified status and that her cover was blown. He also confirmed that damage had been done. One or more of the elements of the espionage law probably couldn't be supported to the level he demanded -- thus no charge.

I seem to remember that the Bush administration promised to not only do what is legal, but what is right. This was an obvious slam against Clinton and an attempt to be judged above Clinton's actions. Today, no one can claim that the Bush administration did the right thing in this Valerie Plame case.

Next week I think we will have the SCOTUS appointment dominate the news cycles for awhile. A ultra-conservative will be nominated and it will set off a huge fight. Meanwhile, Scooter will plead guilty to avoid a trial knowing Bush will pardon him. There is a chance that this is the end of the road or it could be chapter 1 of a story that will continue to unfold and erupt from time to time during the 2006 and 2008 election.

There is blood in the water. I have heard the Bush presidency be described as showing signs of weakness or being in the midst of a tactical retreat. Just goes to show that one man's weakness is another's idea of tactical retreat.
The deal is that the post-9/11 honeymoon with the unquestioning press and the Bush administration is over. There is a credibility gap and republicans can no longer claim moral authority.

Libby's charges reveal something to the world that I knew all along, we cannot trust what anybody in the Bush administration says on things that matter. Sure, I will never trust Clinton when he says he never had sex with that woman or any other woman, but that is about it. We cannot trust the Bush administration on the stuff we should -- national security. For that, no one should be celebrating.
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:26 AM   #19
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Very well written denicast. You should be a writer! I agree with you. Fitz's investigation has not ended, and perhaps we will see another indictment? Or more added to Libby's indictment? It depends on if Libby decides to tell the truth for a plea bargain or if he just takes the bullet and hopes for a pardon.
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:55 AM   #20
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I agree with much of what's been posted. I also agree with those who think this may rise above Libby.

The case laid out today was necessarily narrow, but I think it picks at the scab of the true crime ...misrepresentation of the facts that lead us into a war that was unprovoked and is generally considered in world opinion to be illegal.

Today was simply the first unraveling of the ruthless campaign waged against dissenters of the war rationale. I was one of them. I said months before the war that winning the war would be easy, but winning the peace would be next to impossible.

When are we ever going to learn that we can never forcibly make others agree with us? I make my living in sales, and believe me, you can’t force a sale …even if you have the leverage … ultimately it comes back to haunt you.
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