[Assungusa]

Of course we should stay out of their business. Wrong is wrong. Lies are lies. We are making up lies about Iran to get public support to favor bombing them. For what? $, of course. The Caspian Sea is awash with natural gas. Our greedy pricks want to wet their beaks.

Listen to what the president of Iran actually has to say. He is rational, logical and peaceful, unless someone wants to f-ck with him, then he won't put up with it, as would any respectable man running a country.

The reason UK will not join in on a f-ck feast of Iran is b/c the UK people have made it clear as a mother f-cker that they won't put up with it. We need to do the same.

911 allowed their $ grab to start. Rumsfeld wanted to skip Afghan and head straight to attacking Iraq. What's that tell you? There was nothing that ever showed that Iraq had anything to do with 911 in any way. And yet he wanted to immediately bomb them over it.

WTF people?

How can you not see what is really going on? What is wrong with you?

There is no limits to what these guys will do to pursue their agenda as long as it's not their families that are getting killed. We are all acceptable casualties for them to pursue their agenda.

You know it, open your window and yell it to the world brother. Tell that man you no longer a slave for his agenda and that anyone who supports the war are the real traitors, prepared to kill the innocent, prepared to ignore a world shouting "NO" to this madness. Those that propose peace through violence will get violence and more violence until they either kill every Sunni and I'm sure they would if they could, or they are told to leave cause they cause more trouble than they solve.

Erm, anyone remember that the Shia are becoming active now, the stage is set for civil war........well done Bush, well done Blair, well done everyone who voted for this regime that likes to sadisically interfere and watch people die for it's interests.

I was in town on Saturday and a gang of old ladies had set up a stall in protest at the war, they did a great job so I stood and talked with them for an hour. It was great, so many people signing the petition and voicing their opinions, It was heartwarming to see so many who care and want our boys home.

[cl004]

Literally in a row, Iran is the middle one and obviously the most dangerous to attack. The UK has already said that attacking Iran is out of the question, if they want nuclear power let them have it, the need to provide energy to their people is more important than what the rest of the world thinks. Maybe we should stay out of Irans business, rather than playing this silly game of good cop, bad cop with the US/Europe.

I was beeing sarcastic

[Hedkffiz]

Do yuo HONESTLY believe that any other country would act any differently if they had our power? History says no. Regardless of culture, powerful countries have used their power to advance their agenda. That is a fact.

And Russia was not a country to fear? Did you miss their incursions into Hungary, Czechslovakia, and Afghanistan? Did you miss their assistence to Castro? Are you really this uninformed?

BTW, what was so wrong about removing the Taliban? They protected an organization that attacked the United States. It's called self-defense.

[Trikaduliana]

I was beeing sarcastic

Well use the sarcastic smiley and I'll know.

Hard to tell by written language when sarcasm is being used.

[Snuddyentaine]

Do yuo HONESTLY believe that any other country would act any differently if they had our power?

This statement in itself is pitiful. The USA is supposed to uphold the values of freedom and opposition to imperialism, it rather sounds like you actually want and enjoy the thought of conquering an empire. Indeed your country was created by kicking out an imperialist ruler, do you wish to pursue that which your founding fathers condemned?

The other problem is the fact that we today live in a very different world to our forefathers, the cruelties of life are alot further away today as opposed to those suffered by our ancestors. 300 years ago life was much harder, the threats to the United Kingdom from it's enemies led us to a global power game in which denying terrirtory to the French was almost as important as conquering it for ourselves. The battle for survival was very different then to now and you are wrong to compare these times which are seperated by centuries.

Today, my country has no wish to conquer land or be the most powerful nation on earth, we just want to be part of the global community and seeing as we are a tiny little island I think we do quite well thankyou.

History says no. Regardless of culture, powerful countries have used their power to advance their agenda. That is a fact. History determines that we learn from our mistakes, history determines that in this modern world global cooperation is the key to the success of all mankind and not just a select few. The pursuit and exploitation of resources for our material needs is raping many smaller countries who have no option but to accept the unfair status quo or lose access to essential aid. We in reality have them over a barrell, we have conned them into giving us what we want and we bully rather than trade fairly with many of the worlds countries.

History says that we should be less concerned with power and more concerned with equality for all nations and peoples of the world.........you clearly do not want this.

And Russia was not a country to fear? Did you miss their incursions into Hungary, Czechslovakia, and Afghanistan? Did you miss their assistence to Castro? Are you really this uninformed? Did you miss history classes about WW2, you would have known then that it was us who gave Russia east Europe, Churchill warned about the Bolshevik threat and proposed invading through the "soft underbelly" of Nazi europe.......his calls went unheeded.

Have you ever heard the quote "We may have won the war, but we have lost the peace" If you had, you'd know what this meant.

Anyway, whats wrong with Cuba? My friends father moved there 7 years ago and absolutely loves it and has no intentions of ever moving back to the UK.

BTW, what was so wrong about removing the Taliban? They protected an organization that attacked the United States. It's called self-defense. Taliban or Warlords..............you really think they are gone? All you have done is hand the country over to warlords and they can kickoff at anytime. Afghanistan is far, far away from the heaven you must think it is. The only thing we have really achieved that means anything is that there now is a big US pipeline going through Afghanistan that has only gone and undermined the Russian federation. Yes, your opinion that acting like this is somehow acceptable is madness to me, so lay the seeds of future conflict............

[medifastwoman]

Well use the sarcastic smiley and I'll know.

Hard to tell by written language when sarcasm is being used.

Sorry

[nryFBa9i]

Good point, asa. We should have nuked it flat rather than risk any further issues with the tribal government.

Matt

(And I hope you don't need me to explain why it's impossible for that part of the world to be "nuked flat.")

[Moupponge]

Afghanistan, home of the Taliban and Bin Laden, was not a threat?

Nonsense.

Matt

We created that mess, Matt. Started arming and training the Mujahadeen before the Soviets invaded, and after they left we abandoned the country and left it to the tender mercies of the rabid nuts we had used to fight our proxy war. Remember Somalia? Same fucked up policy with very similar results.

Bottom line is the threat originates from here, not over there.

[somasideff]

Thats more like it Matt, we as westerners don't really fucking care about the world so why not just fucking destroy it, we only care for ourselves and whats mine, mine, mine..........oh, we are by other methods namely, overpopulation, exploitative pollution based industries, endless road building, destruction of natural habitat and the ecological system that we all depend on etc. I can see God is pleased with our progress.........

"Psst, we evolved from Monkie's"

"Who said that?"

I guess the sarcasm was not apparent enough, so you thought I meant we really should have nuked Afghanistan.....

Matt

[rionetrozasa]

(And I hope you don't need me to explain why it's impossible for that part of the world to be "nuked flat.")

You and asainspace could start a support group for the sarcasm impaired....

Really, dude, did you think I was seriously advocating nuking Afghanistan?

Matt

[Slchtjgb]

I guess the sarcasm was not apparent enough, so you thought I meant we really should have nuked Afghanistan.....

Matt

Of course Matt, I know how much of your tax dollar has been used to build the bloody things so why not use them?

[SpyRemo]

You and asainspace could start a support group for the sarcasm impaired....

Really, dude, did you think I was seriously advocating nuking Afghanistan?

Matt

I think you were Matt. As a conservative you cannot be trusted, you know that. I think really the rest of the world should nuke the USA and we can then build the European utopia we all deserve, with free healthcare, buspasses for OAPS, A national pension when you retire as a national thankyou for your productivity and contribution to society over your working life, a free holiday to the Black sea annually and to top it off, a nice bonfire when your dead to cremate you and provide a nice BBQ for the homeless to cook potatos and succulent BBQ spare ribs, washed down with free national cider from the collective farms of the European continent.

How about that?

By the way, just winding you up Matt. I know you have no intention of nuking Afghanistan, but there are some who would.

[gogoleanylinkfo]

You had me going for a minute there, until I read the last line. Consider me wound

Matt