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Old 02-26-2006, 11:57 PM   #1
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In four more years America will no longer exist as we know it. That is, if George Bush and the multinational corporations of the United States, Canada, and Mexico succeed in their stealth project to put in place a new union of the three nations by 2010.

The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on Building a North American Community has been given the job of developing a plan for the economic and, eventual, political union of America, Canada, and Mexico. This union, the SPPNA [Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America], is a prelude to the FTAA, a demonstration model being constructed under the radar [but available to anyone who wants to check it out]. It is being done, though, without the knowledge or consent of the American people. This union is in the process of being implemented and the Bush team assigned this mission include: Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, and Secretary of the Department of Homeland Seurity Michael Chertoff. [Documentation in websites below]

If you support the continued existence of an independent and sovereign United States of America, then the report on Building a North American Community is not pleasant reading. One subject that pops up a number of times is open borders. According to the report, the borders that Americans have demanded Bush secure will be open in four years [officially], with the President's blessing.

The authors of the report "...propose a community [North America] based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders..." [Bush, Fox, and Martin]. "Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be a safe, just, and prosperous North America." http://www.cfr.org/publication/8121/...community.html [pp.12,13]

The report notes that the task force is guided by several principles, one of which is: "Our economic focus should be on the creation of a common economic space [America, Canada, and Mexico] ...a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." Yes, open borders. [pp.15.16]

Under the title, WHAT WE SHOULD DO BY 2010, the authors say: "Lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America. The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramaticlly diminishing the need for the current intensity of the goverments' physical control of cross-border traffic within North America. Also "...the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. [p.19]

WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW. "Canada and the United States should expand programs for temporary labor migration from Mexico."

"Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico. [According to the GAO, if this happens, millions of illegal aliens and their dependents in Mexico could be eligible for social security payments, courtesy of Uncle Sam (George Bush), if he signs the agreement]. That will certainly help keep social security solvent. [p.37]

By 2010, the three nations "...should agree on streamlined immigration and labor mobility rules that enable citizens of all three countries to work elsewhere in North America with far fewer restrictions than immigrants from other countries." [p.37]

"Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the United States. "...Canada and the United States should consider eliminating all barriers to the ability of their citizens to live and work in the other country. It would give an advantage "...to employers in both countries by giving them rapid access to a larger pool of skilled labor." [pp.37.38]

"The two countries should work to extend this policy to Mexico as well, though doing so will not be practical until wage differentials between Mexico and its two North American neighbors have diminished considerably." Guess who's wages will diminish considerably? [pp.37.38]

Heard enough? George Bush has, until recently, remained silent on the millions of illegals invading our country. And then all he did was push his guest worker [amnesty] program and give the problem to Michael Chertoff, who ignored it and also pushed the "guest worker" program.

There is a contradiction here since Bush gave Chertoff a commendation in June of 2005 for his efforts toward implementing the new union of North America, which includes open borders. Bush obviously doesn't want to tell the American people the reason that he refuses to secure the borders and the average American is cooperating by not having the time nor an interest in the real workings of government. Its easier to trust our leaders to do the right thing.

However, consider this: "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein

Sources:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050627-2.html [Bush commends Chertoff, Rice, and Gutierrez for work on implementing the new union of North America]

http://www.thesigintreport.com [See Politics, Illegal Immigration, Globalization]

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/en/act...17347&pagina=5 [President Vicente Fox announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050323-4.html [Bush announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.cfr.org/publcation/8121/b...community.html [ the organization chosen to develpo a plan for the union of North America. Financial support for the project was provided by Archer Daniels Midland Company and Merrill Lynch & Company]
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:33 AM   #2
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Much as I ain't a real big fan of reduced corporate oversight, a unified North America is something I've been pushing for for quite some time.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:37 AM   #3
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Is this part of the Trilateral Commission? Or the Military-Industrial Complex?
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:47 PM   #4
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Why not just annex Mexico and Canada, and be done with it??? Sounds good to me. Then I wouldn't need a passport to move to Mexico. (I'm thinking of it)
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:55 PM   #5
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In four more years America will no longer exist as we know it. That is, if George Bush and the multinational corporations of the United States, Canada, and Mexico succeed in their stealth project to put in place a new union of the three nations by 2010.

The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on Building a North American Community has been given the job of developing a plan for the economic and, eventual, political union of America, Canada, and Mexico. This union, the SPPNA [Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America], is a prelude to the FTAA, a demonstration model being constructed under the radar [but available to anyone who wants to check it out]. It is being done, though, without the knowledge or consent of the American people. This union is in the process of being implemented and the Bush team assigned this mission include: Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, and Secretary of the Department of Homeland Seurity Michael Chertoff. [Documentation in websites below]

If you support the continued existence of an independent and sovereign United States of America, then the report on Building a North American Community is not pleasant reading. One subject that pops up a number of times is open borders. According to the report, the borders that Americans have demanded Bush secure will be open in four years [officially], with the President's blessing.

The authors of the report "...propose a community [North America] based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders..." [Bush, Fox, and Martin]. "Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be a safe, just, and prosperous North America." http://www.cfr.org/publication/8121/...community.html [pp.12,13]

The report notes that the task force is guided by several principles, one of which is: "Our economic focus should be on the creation of a common economic space [America, Canada, and Mexico] ...a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." Yes, open borders. [pp.15.16]

Under the title, WHAT WE SHOULD DO BY 2010, the authors say: "Lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America. The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramaticlly diminishing the need for the current intensity of the goverments' physical control of cross-border traffic within North America. Also "...the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. [p.19]

WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW. "Canada and the United States should expand programs for temporary labor migration from Mexico."

"Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico. [According to the GAO, if this happens, millions of illegal aliens and their dependents in Mexico could be eligible for social security payments, courtesy of Uncle Sam (George Bush), if he signs the agreement]. That will certainly help keep social security solvent. [p.37]

By 2010, the three nations "...should agree on streamlined immigration and labor mobility rules that enable citizens of all three countries to work elsewhere in North America with far fewer restrictions than immigrants from other countries." [p.37]

"Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the United States. "...Canada and the United States should consider eliminating all barriers to the ability of their citizens to live and work in the other country. It would give an advantage "...to employers in both countries by giving them rapid access to a larger pool of skilled labor." [pp.37.38]

"The two countries should work to extend this policy to Mexico as well, though doing so will not be practical until wage differentials between Mexico and its two North American neighbors have diminished considerably." Guess who's wages will diminish considerably? [pp.37.38]

Heard enough? George Bush has, until recently, remained silent on the millions of illegals invading our country. And then all he did was push his guest worker [amnesty] program and give the problem to Michael Chertoff, who ignored it and also pushed the "guest worker" program.

There is a contradiction here since Bush gave Chertoff a commendation in June of 2005 for his efforts toward implementing the new union of North America, which includes open borders. Bush obviously doesn't want to tell the American people the reason that he refuses to secure the borders and the average American is cooperating by not having the time nor an interest in the real workings of government. Its easier to trust our leaders to do the right thing.

However, consider this: "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein

Sources:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050627-2.html [Bush commends Chertoff, Rice, and Gutierrez for work on implementing the new union of North America]

http://www.thesigintreport.com [See Politics, Illegal Immigration, Globalization]

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/en/act...17347&pagina=5 [President Vicente Fox announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050323-4.html [Bush announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.cfr.org/publcation/8121/b...community.html [ the organization chosen to develpo a plan for the union of North America. Financial support for the project was provided by Archer Daniels Midland Company and Merrill Lynch & Company]
Your fears are unfounded. I currently work almost exclusively in the US for a Canadian company but the last thing I ever want to be is American. What is being proposed here is something like the EU which makes complete sense economically. In spite of their open borders in Europe the Spanish and Portuguese hate each other, the French hate the English, and everyone hates the germans. Believe me, while the borders might become easier to cross (thank god because they are a pain in the ass right now with the people who are supposed to be protected actually getting hassled the most....stupid) Mexicans, Canadians and Americans will continue to mark their differences aggressively.
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:01 PM   #6
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Much as I ain't a real big fan of reduced corporate oversight, a unified North America is something I've been pushing for for quite some time.
80% of Canadians strongly dislike Bush so you've got to do someting about that first......not that it will make any difference....
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:21 PM   #7
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See the fact that 80% of Candians disaprove of him (if that's true) just seems to make it all the more pleasurable we re-elected him with such an enormous turn out.
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:29 PM   #8
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The new union of North America is a prelude to the FTAA [Free Trade Area of the Americas], if George Bush can get it passed. The FTAA will include all that the previous "trade agreements" provide, plus more. Over 30,000 regulations in these agreements [WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA] transfer power from the member states to multinational corporations.

NAFTA, under chapter 11, allows foreign corporations to sue governments at all levels for impeding their right to profit because of laws they (governments) have inacted. All three member states have been sued successfully by corporations. Unelected tribunals have ruled in favor of these corporations and imposed heavy penalties.

"Corporate investors have also used NAFTA's investor-state enforcement system to challenge domestic court rulings, local and state environmental policies, municipal contracts, tax policy, federal controlled substances regulations, federal and state anti-gambling policies, a federal government's alleged failure to provide water rights, and even the provision of public postal services [Canada]." http://www.bilaterals.org/article-pr...d-article=1353

NAFTA-created tribunals have handled challenges to U.S. court verdicts and ruled on them. And in one case [Mississippi], declared "...a Mississippi court's judgement at odds with international law, leaving the United States government potentially liable for hundreds of millions of dollars." http://www.globalisation.org.au/html...ticle&sid=1354

John D. Echeverria, a law professor at Georgetown University, said: "This is the biggest threat to United States judicial independence...." [The Globalisation Roundtable, Nafta Tribunals Stir U.S. worries. See Globalisation above]

Peter Spiro, Hofstra University law professor, stated: "...it points to a fundamental reorientation of our constitutional system. You have an international tribunal essentially reviewing American court judgements."

Abner Mikva, a NAFTA judge considering the Mississippi court case: "If Congress had known that there was anything like this in Nafta, they would never have voted for it."

According to judges and legal scholars, "...the tribunals have the potential to upset the settled American constitutional order."

Chief Justice Ronald M. George of the California Supreme Court warned: "There are grave implications here. It's rather shocking that the highest courts of the states and federal government could have their judgements circumvented by these tribunals."

The union of North America will be using the trade agreements to coordinate commerce throughout North America. The task force also recommends that the three nations establish a North American Advisory Council and a North American Inter-Parliamentay group. They will eventually morph into two law-making bodies like those in the European Union. Laws passed by them would be binding on every person in North America [and the FTAA later] as well as the various legislatures of the member states, including Congress.

These "trade agreements" are being called agreements and not treaties in order to rush them through Congress on an up or down vote, without debate and a look at the fine print. The goal is to destroy the nation state so that a regional corporate state of the Americas can be formed.

The FTAA will be that state, comprising 34 nations of the Western Hemisphere. There will be open borders and the right of foreign business in all 34 member states to set up shop anywhere in the region and to be treated the same as local businesses.

Bush wants the final nail in America's coffin, the FTAA, to be put on the fast track as soon as possible [the previous deadline was Jan. 2005]. Chapter II, article 4.2 of the FTAA Draft Agreement states: "The parties (member states, including America) shall insure that their laws, regulations, and administrative procedures are consistent with the obligations of this agreement. The rights and obligations under this Agreement are the same for all the Parties, [whether Federal or unitary states, including the different levels and branches of government], unless otherwise provided in this agreement."

This means that all 34 member states of the FTAA [city, county, state, and
federal] must change their laws in order to conform with the many regulations in the agreement. The FTAA will cover most aspects of life in the new megastate. The sovereignty and independence of every member state will be superseded by the corporate state.

Vicente Fox, President of Mexico and one of the driving forces behind a supra-national government, had this to say about the big changes on the horizon: "In recent years a new international system has been developing, oriented toward the establishment of norms and principles of universal jurisdiction [globalization], above national sovereignty, in the areas of what is called the new agenda [FTAA] ...we have to confront...what I dare call the Anglo-Saxon prejudice against the establishment of supra-national organizations."

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious, but it cannot survive treason from within." Cicero
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:00 PM   #9
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Why not just annex Mexico and Canada, and be done with it??? Sounds good to me. Then I wouldn't need a passport to move to Mexico. (I'm thinking of it)
Lake Chapala is very nice! San Miguel de Allende a close second. Both towns enjoy a very very Low cost of living, great weather, and plenty of american expats....
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:01 PM   #10
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Much as I ain't a real big fan of reduced corporate oversight, a unified North America is something I've been pushing for for quite some time.
I agree. Now, let's make it happen!
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:23 AM   #11
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See the fact that 80% of Candians disaprove of him (if that's true) just seems to make it all the more pleasurable we re-elected him with such an enormous turn out.
Yeah, you Americans are really smart for thumbing your noses at the 95% of the world's population that isn't American. No wonder you're so despised internationally and you have to pretend you're Canadian for self-preservation when travelling outside your borders.
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Old 03-03-2006, 09:42 AM   #12
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Yeah, you Americans are really smart for thumbing your noses at the 95% of the world's population that isn't American. No wonder you're so despised internationally and you have to pretend you're Canadian for self-preservation when travelling outside your borders.
Sorry, I gotta call bullshit here.

There might be a few people out there who pretend to be Canadian for some reason, but I doubt the practice is either widespread or necessary for survival.

It seems like a great many Americans who go abroad for work of leisure manage to make it safely home. I doubt it is because they pretend to be Canadian....

Matt
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:02 AM   #13
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I have heard about this North American Union project a long time ago and I thougt it was barried, it sounds very interesting indeed. Does this project include common North American currency, along with common citizenship and passports like in the EU???
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Old 03-03-2006, 04:54 PM   #14
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Lake Chapala is very nice! San Miguel de Allende a close second. Both towns enjoy a very very Low cost of living, great weather, and plenty of american expats....
Thanks for the update. The lake is on my agenda, and I will check out San Miguel. However, I am more interested in living within the general Population of mexico, rather than in a conclave of ex-pat Us citizens. My first intrest is in Ciudad Victoria. (200 miles due south of Brownsville Texas,)

I'm also considering India and Pakistan. Anyone have any info on living arrangements in either of them??? On maybe someone living there whom I can Email??(In this day and age,---with their permission of course )

PS: THANKS AGAIN
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Old 03-05-2006, 06:14 PM   #15
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See the fact that 80% of Candians disaprove of him (if that's true) just seems to make it all the more pleasurable we re-elected him with such an enormous turn out.
Make it 85%!......

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/po...09_74911_74911

Canadians to Bush: Hope You Lose, Eh

According to a new poll, only 15 per cent of us would vote for the President

JONATHON GATEHOUSE

MAYBE IT'S THAT SMUG LITTLE SMILE. His penchant for fantastically expensive military photo-ops. Or the swaggering, belt-hitching walk that cries out for a pair of swinging saloon doors. And though, God knows, we have too many of our own syntactically challenged politicians to be casting stones, shouldn't the leader of the free world know that "misunderestimate" isn't a word? Yes, we're cavilling, but clearly there is something about George W. Bush that gets under the skin of Canadians. After all, vehemently disagreeing with the policies of American presidents is almost a national pastime. There has to be another explanation for our extreme reaction, the desire afoot in the land to see him turfed from office. That and the unprintable sentiment about him and the horse he rode in on. Even before we know whom he will be running against this fall, Canadians have made their decision. Only 15 per cent, according to an exclusive new Maclean's poll, would definitely cast a ballot for Bush if they had the opportunity. And if Americans remain almost evenly divided -- some 50 per cent approve of his performance in the White House and he's running neck and neck with his likely Democratic challengers -- there is no such dithering on this side of the border. Just 12 per cent of us feel Canada is better off since he took office, and only a third of respondents will admit to liking the world's most powerful man, even just a little bit.
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Old 03-05-2006, 06:20 PM   #16
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Sorry, I gotta call bullshit here.

There might be a few people out there who pretend to be Canadian for some reason, but I doubt the practice is either widespread or necessary for survival.

It seems like a great many Americans who go abroad for work of leisure manage to make it safely home. I doubt it is because they pretend to be Canadian....

Matt
Well you obviously don't know what you're talking about here Matt. Sorry to embarass you but you left me with no choice. Don't call something bullshit unless you're sure you know what you're talking about. As a moderator, you should know better. Otherwise it makes you look like an unknowledgable saboteur.

American travelers have been disguising themselves as Canadians for 30 years," said one expert in Canadian-American relations at the University at Buffalo, part of the State University of New York.


http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...2554-8534r.htm

http://www.jimmyakin.org/2004/12/americans_prete.html

http://individual.utoronto.ca/aaronorear/canadian.html

Note to American Travelers Pretending to Be Canadians: Stop It!
Joseph Cohen writes in Sunday’s Seattle Times that he “could have held a full (and very poorly played) hockey game with all the fake Canadians [he] ran into while traveling in Western Europe.” They were, of course, Americans trying to avoid being outed.


http://www.worldhum.com/weblog/item/...dians_stop_it/

Try googling this topic and you will be kept busy for an afternoon....
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Old 03-06-2006, 12:58 AM   #17
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Yeah, you Americans are really smart for thumbing your noses at the 95% of the world's population that isn't American. No wonder you're so despised internationally and you have to pretend you're Canadian for self-preservation when travelling outside your borders.
I don't know a single person who has ever claimed to be Canadian when they've left the U.S. Secondly, I've traveled out of the U.S. many times and I've never had a problem. As a matter of fact, unless you're in another English speaking country, they don't even know you're American unless you tell them. You go to France, or Germany, or anyplace where English is the primary language they more commonly assume that you are British. They don't hear the difference between our accents like other English speaking people do.

You may want to try talking of something you know more "aboot", eh?
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:05 AM   #18
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In four more years America will no longer exist as we know it. That is, if George Bush and the multinational corporations of the United States, Canada, and Mexico succeed in their stealth project to put in place a new union of the three nations by 2010.

The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on Building a North American Community has been given the job of developing a plan for the economic and, eventual, political union of America, Canada, and Mexico. This union, the SPPNA [Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America], is a prelude to the FTAA, a demonstration model being constructed under the radar [but available to anyone who wants to check it out]. It is being done, though, without the knowledge or consent of the American people. This union is in the process of being implemented and the Bush team assigned this mission include: Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, and Secretary of the Department of Homeland Seurity Michael Chertoff. [Documentation in websites below]

If you support the continued existence of an independent and sovereign United States of America, then the report on Building a North American Community is not pleasant reading. One subject that pops up a number of times is open borders. According to the report, the borders that Americans have demanded Bush secure will be open in four years [officially], with the President's blessing.

The authors of the report "...propose a community [North America] based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders..." [Bush, Fox, and Martin]. "Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be a safe, just, and prosperous North America." http://www.cfr.org/publication/8121/...community.html [pp.12,13]

The report notes that the task force is guided by several principles, one of which is: "Our economic focus should be on the creation of a common economic space [America, Canada, and Mexico] ...a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." Yes, open borders. [pp.15.16]

Under the title, WHAT WE SHOULD DO BY 2010, the authors say: "Lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America. The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramaticlly diminishing the need for the current intensity of the goverments' physical control of cross-border traffic within North America. Also "...the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. [p.19]

WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW. "Canada and the United States should expand programs for temporary labor migration from Mexico."

"Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico. [According to the GAO, if this happens, millions of illegal aliens and their dependents in Mexico could be eligible for social security payments, courtesy of Uncle Sam (George Bush), if he signs the agreement]. That will certainly help keep social security solvent. [p.37]

By 2010, the three nations "...should agree on streamlined immigration and labor mobility rules that enable citizens of all three countries to work elsewhere in North America with far fewer restrictions than immigrants from other countries." [p.37]

"Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the United States. "...Canada and the United States should consider eliminating all barriers to the ability of their citizens to live and work in the other country. It would give an advantage "...to employers in both countries by giving them rapid access to a larger pool of skilled labor." [pp.37.38]

"The two countries should work to extend this policy to Mexico as well, though doing so will not be practical until wage differentials between Mexico and its two North American neighbors have diminished considerably." Guess who's wages will diminish considerably? [pp.37.38]

Heard enough? George Bush has, until recently, remained silent on the millions of illegals invading our country. And then all he did was push his guest worker [amnesty] program and give the problem to Michael Chertoff, who ignored it and also pushed the "guest worker" program.

There is a contradiction here since Bush gave Chertoff a commendation in June of 2005 for his efforts toward implementing the new union of North America, which includes open borders. Bush obviously doesn't want to tell the American people the reason that he refuses to secure the borders and the average American is cooperating by not having the time nor an interest in the real workings of government. Its easier to trust our leaders to do the right thing.

However, consider this: "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein

Sources:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050627-2.html [Bush commends Chertoff, Rice, and Gutierrez for work on implementing the new union of North America]

http://www.thesigintreport.com [See Politics, Illegal Immigration, Globalization]

http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/en/act...17347&pagina=5 [President Vicente Fox announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050323-4.html [Bush announces a commitment to the SPPNA, North America]

http://www.cfr.org/publcation/8121/b...community.html [ the organization chosen to develpo a plan for the union of North America. Financial support for the project was provided by Archer Daniels Midland Company and Merrill Lynch & Company]
Uh-huh and Bush is secretly part of orchestrating the New World Order right? And Al Gore is really a shape shifting alien too, huh? And David Ickes speaks to beings from other dimensions.

And of course, nobody in the world knows about all of these "truths" but a select few people who have enough time on their hands when saving the world to post this stuff on Internet message boards.

Cuckoo! boing Cuckoo! boing Cuckoo! boing
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:47 AM   #19
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ray kania, you brought the money! Thanks for posting! Yes, I've known about this for a while, but dare I make mention of it to these people would flip like they just did now. The people that know how the world really works can easily understand this to be true and find much motive for it.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:58 AM   #20
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I don't know a single person who has ever claimed to be Canadian when they've left the U.S. Secondly, I've traveled out of the U.S. many times and I've never had a problem. As a matter of fact, unless you're in another English speaking country, they don't even know you're American unless you tell them. You go to France, or Germany, or anyplace where English is the primary language they more commonly assume that you are British. They don't hear the difference between our accents like other English speaking people do.

You may want to try talking of something you know more "aboot", eh?
Ask a Brit, they'll tell you you're full of shit. I lived in the UK for a year and was constantly asked if I was American due to my accent. When I said, with a pained expression, no I'm Canadian, the usual response was invariably, "thank god!" By the way, no one in Canada says "aboot." Furthermore, the sources I posted above are just a sampling of hundreds on the topic of Americans posing as Canadians while abroad. I'll trust the expert at the University of New York over you anyday for starters....and few people are going to say to your face that they think your country has run amok.
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