[zooworms]

The following is a sample of the articles I have found on the issue. What are your views and opinions?

Study: Illegals cost $210M in education

http://www.news14charlotte.com/conte...sp?ArID=114332

RALEIGH, N.C. -- The cost of educating children of illegal immigrants is more than 20 times what it was 10 years ago, and some argue that the money would be better spent on other students.

A study by the Kenan Institute of Private Enterprise at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill showed educating illegal immigrants' children costs the state an estimated $210 million a year. Ten years before, the figure was less than $10 million.

Reports Says Illegal Aliens Costing Mississippi Taxpayers

http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=4559381&nav=6DJI

State Auditor Phil Bryant's report estimates 49,000 illegal immigrants in the state, costing over $25 million.

"It's the first time anyone in the State of Mississippi has tried to look at illegal immigrants and what it costs the taxpayer," Bryant said.

The report takes into account contributions from illegal aliens who pay more than $40 million in sales tax and more than $3 million in income tax each year. But the estimated costs are more than $69 million. That includes everything from education and healthcare to public safety and losses from income sent out of the country.

Entrant costs triple $1.5M gov. promised

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/91692.php

The bills aren't all in yet, but the costs of dealing with illegal immigration are running more than three times the emergency $1.5 million Gov. Janet Napolitano has agreed to send to Southern Arizona, officials of four border counties said Friday.

Expect at least a $5 million tab over the next six months to a year for law enforcement, accident response, trash cleanup, health care and autopsy cases involving illegal immigrants, say officials of Pima, Cochise, Santa Cruz and Yuma counties. Pima County expects to spend $2 million in illegal immigrant-related matters in the next six months.

Yuma County says it spends $2.2 million each year on jailing illegal immigrants and currently receives only $200,000 in federal aid in compensation. Cochise County says it needs $800,000 to $1 million in help to deal with illegal immigration. Santa Cruz County says its tab is at least $100,000.

Illegal aliens cost California billions

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...2115-6766r.htm

Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.

A key finding of the report by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said the state's already struggling kindergarten-through-12th-grade education system spends $7.7 billion a year on children of illegal aliens, who constitute 15 percent of the student body.

Illegals' health care costs increasing

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20040...0007-3972r.htm

ANNAPOLIS — State Comptroller William Donald Schaefer said yesterday that health care costs for illegal aliens in Maryland are much higher than reported — and taxpayers and consumers are footing the bill.

"I am very concerned over this," Mr. Schaefer told Maryland Budget Secretary James C. "Chip" DiPaula Jr. during a Board of Public Works meeting.

Mr. Schaefer, a Democrat, cited state Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.

Illegal Aliens and the Cost to Arizona's Hospitals

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=21492

"The estimated annual cost to hospitals and other providers of emergency health care nationwide for illegal aliens is $1.45 billion. According to congressionally-commissioned research from the MTG Corporation, the annual cost to just the 24 counties along the border in Texas, New Mexico and California exceeds $200 million, and for Arizona's four border counties alone it's $32 million per year.

These unreimbursed costs, and other health-related issues, have put Arizona hospitals in a state of dire fiscal emergency. As a result, some have closed, or are in danger of having to close their emergency rooms and other services.

Copper Queen Hospital in Bisbee, for example, closed its ob/gyn department for several months because it had to provide labor and delivery services for illegal immigrants on an emergency basis and received no compensation. Maricopa County Hospital incurred uncompensated costs of over $1 million just to treat two burn victims."

[Metrujectiktus]

Many of us have asked why American taxpayers should foot the bill for illegal aliens and as of yet, no one has given a reasonable answer. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Bush or any president before him hasn't sealed the Mexican border. Why are we being forced to support a child of an illegal just because his mother crossed the border to use our hospitals, knowing that her child would be a US citizen? When are enough people going to get fed up and demand that the government do something?

[teergoBissono]

Many of us have asked why American taxpayers should foot the bill for illegal aliens and as of yet, no one has given a reasonable answer. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Bush or any president before him hasn't sealed the Mexican border. Why are we being forced to support a child of an illegal just because his mother crossed the border to use our hospitals, knowing that her child would be a US citizen? When are enough people going to get fed up and demand that the government do something?

There was a Supreme Court case in the late 1970's which basically stated that governmental agencies cannot ask whether the person was legal or not. The particular case had to do with a hospital refusing treatment to an illegal. Ever since that time, that is why you do not see governmental forms asking what is your residency status. They verify your residency status in a number of ways, but cannot ask the question directly. i cannot remember the case and I am not at my business desk where I can access Westlaw database.

[adesseridopaw]

There was a Supreme Court case in the late 1970's which basically stated that governmental agencies cannot ask whether the person was legal or not. The particular case had to do with a hospital refusing treatment to an illegal. Ever since that time, that is why you do not see governmental forms asking what is your residency status. They verify your residency status in a number of ways, but cannot ask the question directly. i cannot remember the case and I am not at my business desk where I can access Westlaw database.

I do remember that case but not the details. I don't think we should refuse emergency medical treatment to anyway, regardless of their residency status. However, if we tightened the borders, we wouldn't have to worry about it!

[xT0U3UGh]

I do remember that case but not the details. I don't think we should refuse emergency medical treatment to anyway, regardless of their residency status. However, if we tightened the borders, we wouldn't have to worry about it!

I see a somewhat different approach. If Mexico decides follow the path of the Asian tigers, ie China, Korea, Japan, then the flow of illegals will stop. But the problem with Mexico has always been corruption, espeicially in the PRI, but is exists in all the parties. Putting a wall or sending troops will create more problems than it will solve.

[TriamiCaw]

I've run this topic past the membership here several times........ no one sems to give a shit. After all, we're only spending around 70 billion alnnually on things attributable to illegal immigration. As the number of illegals grows by millions per year ( 2005 estimate ? nearly 3 million ) that figure will rise and the burden on the taxpayer will become increasingly greater.
Health care costs have gone thru the roof as the costs of treating the uninsured is passed on to those with insurance. Meanwhile, employers scramble to keep these costs from becoming fatal to their businesses.

I said it before, I'll say it again. You may not care about illegal immigration today, but believe me , you eventually will.

[Affolfembonge]

I've run this topic past the membership here several times........ no one sems to give a shit. After all, we're only spending around 70 billion alnnually on things attributable to illegal immigration. As the number of illegals grows by millions per year ( 2005 estimate ? nearly 3 million ) that figure will rise and the burden on the taxpayer will become increasingly greater.
Health care costs have gone thru the roof as the costs of treating the uninsured is passed on to those with insurance. Meanwhile, employers scramble to keep these costs from becoming fatal to their businesses.

I said it before, I'll say it again. You may not care about illegal immigration today, but believe me , you eventually will.

You're right, people really don't seem to care! I can't understand it because so man are screaming about how much of a deficit we're in but when blocking illegal immigrants comes up, many actually DEFEND those "poor" people. Yeah, those "poor" people! They're wreaking havoc in Slidell to the point that unfortunately, unless they have a Louisiana ID, we're refusing to let them in the bar, but, luckily, we've a right to refuse service to anyone for any reason so nobody can sue us. In the past, they would come in in groups of 5-10 and end up creating problems by fighting or arguing with other patrons. Many of them are being arrested for being here illegally but they'll never catch them all because as soon as one is arrested, another shows up to take his place.
I wonder how long people are going to tolerate illegals when the $70 billion turns in to $80, 90 or 100 billion. I think this will be part of my defense each time someone brings up the huge deficit!
Now, IMO, a steel wall, say 15 ft tall, 15 ft wide (so they'd have trouble tunneling through) and with lots of Constantine wire would help if it was built from Texas to California. Put some military men out there with orders to shoot any criminal trying to climb over and that should pretty much eliminate most of the problems!

[Polopolop]

Illegal immigrants are a source of cheap labor for big business. Look at who actually opposes tighter border control, and you'll see that it's not about humanitarianism, it's about more profits for Wal-Mart.

[FrassyLap]

Illegal immigrants are a source of cheap labor Apparently so....and not just for big business either...

U.S. Has 10,000 Forced Laborers, Researchers Say

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Sep22.html

[warrgazur]

Somebody please go on the main board and post something that says
" Bush to spend 70 billion more on war" and find out how many people show up to scream bloody murder.

[Ygxejxox]

Thankfully, no matter how much they try to shut us down, our voices will not be stifled.

It's not immigration, it is a full scale invasion of our borders. The costs for housing, educating, arresting, and feeding these mestizos are simply too great now that they number in the millions.

They periodically harass and rape women, they murder and they vandalize. Many once vibrant communities have been transformed into ethnic slums; the immigrants recreate their original homeland once all of their parasitic "needs" are taken care of.

America had no intention of being Hispanicized and we are paying the price for sitting idly while these scum are starting to take our terrority and control our cities (Miami and Los Angeles).

We are overtaxing small businesses and corporations and it has got to stop.

Vicente Fox should get the boot in the ass from us.

[replicamuse]

Somebody please go on the main board and post something that says
" Bush to spend 70 billion more on war" and find out how many people show up to scream bloody murder.

Well, it's gotten more responses then this thread

[Stengapsept]

The following is a sample of the articles I have found on the issue. What are your views and opinions?.....

This is like pointing out all the bad things that happen after a train wreck. Fix and maintain the tracks so we don't have to worry about the obvious bad conclusions. Seal the damn borders! Reform immigration and guest worker laws. Enforce the laws that we have.

[Inettypofonee]

Well, it's gotten more responses then this thread

Sure, because it's about war. Who cares about American citizens who are denied while we care for the needs of people who are here illegally? As long as there's no blood, the 70 billion annually is a bother to no one.
I can't wait to see what rhetoric this issue will create in election 2008.