[Pippoles]

I hope the city fires each and every last one of them...a 12% raise in this economy?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/ny...l?ref=nyregion

I am firing workers because of the Metropolitan Mobility Commuter tax - yet another instance of legalized theft from the filth in Albany such as Espada, Monserrate, etc - and now the MTA will be even further in the hole due to these unacceptable raises?

It is time to disband all public unions, starting with this one, enough is absolutely enough.

The taxes and fees in NYC are high enough already - its because of the healthcare unions that NY spends more than double the next highest state in medicaid costs - the tax base is vanishing, how much more do the criminal unions think they can squeeze the rest of the city?

As it is, there are over 300,000 people out of 8 million working for the city - this is just insane, and totally unsustainable.

I would threaten to fire every MTA worker if they do not accept the rescision of this raise, and accept that there are 1,000 people ready to step in for each and every job if they are unhappy with their current salary.

[corriffuniee]

We share your pain, Tube and Railway workers aren't always the most popular of people here in the UK.

http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

[hiedeemom]

We share your pain, Tube and Railway workers aren't always the most popular of people here in the UK.

http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

The transit workers are merely one facet of the overall issue; the courts in the 1940s and 1950s in the US should NEVER have allowed public workers to form unions.

City governments are service providers, NOT job providers.

If you do not like purchasing a car from a unionized car company, you have a choice - with basic city services like schools, transit, police, etc - there is NO choice, you MUST deal with the product offered.

Further, municpalities have a fundamental responsibility to provide these services at the lowest possible cost, i.e, keeping taxes low - and thereby preventing corruption. Anything that raises the costs of providing these services is unacceptable, and that includes unions.

[cefunonge]

OK, but first let's opt for Death to Rhodes Scholars.

[arcaniagainee]

OK, but first let's opt for Death to Rhodes Scholars.

ZZZzzzzz....why is it that so few liberals outside of Mike Farrell or Mario Cuomo are completely incapable of presenting an intelligent thought?

[GuitarLoverBe]

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Cut out personal remarks, or you'll be removed.

[ranndomderr]

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Cut out personal remarks, or you'll be removed.

Agreed. I'd like to see mods enforce keeping threads on topic, unlike that poster's comment above.

[irrelaAnnekly]

I think you missed the intent.

Hint: Plural.

[dalnecymync]

ZZZzzzzz....why is it that so few liberals outside of Mike Farrell or Mario Cuomo are completely incapable of presenting an intelligent thought?

Next time you use that line, could you at least add C. Hitchens to the short list.

http://www.hitchensweb.com/

[Ettiominiw]

Isn't the topic Death to those who are dastardly?

[klubneras]

I think you missed the intent.

Hint: Plural.

Why not look up and see who is derailing the thread, and initiated the insults.

Why wasn't that poster's post deleted, and they given a warning?

Or is this a forum with 2 sets of rules, with the softer one for liberals?

[PhilipBartew]

Next time you use that line, could you at least add C. Hitchens to the short list.

http://www.hitchensweb.com/

Hitchens is not really liberal, at least not any more, particularly since he supported the iraq war.

[Mypepraipse]

Why not look up and see who is derailing the thread, and initiated the insults.

You still don't see the sarcasm.

And lay off the liberal-conservative hostility. You're in New York forum and it attracts mostly the city's demographic. If that frustrates you, you can move to Oklahoma.

[Impariclainna]

Is lofter softer?

[glagoliska]

Simply simpler

btw: How does anyone know that someone else has not been warned?

There is an entire shadow life at WNY that takes place solely within PMs.

But I'm still confused about the actual topic (as opposed to the title) of this thread ...

is it the Hoped For Massacre of the Members of the Transit Workers Union?

Or maybe just Generalized Reactionary Spoutings?

Or is it Forum Issues? (FYI: There's a whole spool of threads for that).

From what I've read so far it could be any of that -- and more.

[kilibry]

You still don't see the sarcasm.

And lay off the liberal-conservative hostility. You're in New York forum and it attracts mostly the city's demographic. If that frustrates you, you can move to Oklahoma.

Sorry kid, I was born here in '58, have lived in manhattan for 51 years since.

I've watched the liberals destroy the city in the 70s, and are doing so again now. When I am good and ready to leave - that is when it will happen, probably to a place where 15% of the population doesn't work for the city government

[Bridgester]

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I've been here longer than you, kid.

If I was so ideologically rigid as you, I would have left a long time ago. Maybe today, you wouldn't come across as such a bitter person.

[chuecaloversvv]

And while we're at it, it's an 11.5% increase (NOT 12) spread out over three years, which brings out an average of 3.8% increase per year. I will grant these increases are on the high side.

[enentique]

Death to the Investment Bankers?

[Irrampbroow]

I always find it odd when people think it's ok for some to enjoy enormous financial gains, but not others.