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Old 09-08-2009, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default Bush Kept Us Safe?
True or not?

This is very sinister sounding.

Does everyone think that another 911 style plot could be real, or is it just fiction?
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:02 PM   #2
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^ Very scary.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:15 PM   #3
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Three days to 9/11 !
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:09 PM   #4
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A terrorist attack can happen at any time, at any place.

But those predictions are full of inconsistencies. For example: I asked Hill, "Why now?"

"Eight years from 1993 to 2001, eight years from that 9/11 to this 9/11," he said. "Symbolism. They're big on symbolism."

"Ramadan started two weeks ago Saturday," he said, referring to the Muslim holy month of fasting. "It always hits around Ramadan." The 1993 bombing occurred in February.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:37 PM   #5
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Well, since it's doubtful we can do anything about it defensively, complacency at least has the virtue of "what, me worry".

I'd noticed the numerological connection before. 911: isn't that the number you call when there's an emergency. Clever.

As I recall, both the Madrid and London attacks had a numerological basis that you could or could not take note of, depending on your inclination.

Since we're pretty much helpless, complacency makes sense. At least it lets us get to tomorrow without pointless anxiety.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:51 PM   #6
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A terrorist attack can happen at any time, at any place.

But those predictions are full of inconsistencies. For example:
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I asked Hill, "Why now?"

"Eight years from 1993 to 2001, eight years from that 9/11 to this 9/11," he said. "Symbolism. They're big on symbolism."

"Ramadan started two weeks ago Saturday," he said, referring to the Muslim holy month of fasting. "It always hits around Ramadan."
The 1993 bombing occurred in February.
uh... Tue, Feb 23 1993 Ramadan begins (the start date is a few weeks earlier each year - lunar calendar).

The 1993 World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993.

No inconsistency there.

And its true - they are VERY big on symbolism. Al Qaeda rarely does anything without some symbolism behind the date. Course the question is, what symbolism are they going after? A famous martyr? A previous attack? The start of the crusades? The 12th Imams birthday? You can probably link almost any date to something symbolic.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:01 PM   #7
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In 1993 Ramadan was in February/March.

I don't see a reason to believe the attacks aren't done with symbolic intentions, it's just that they do find symbolism in so many things that trying to predict what particular symbolism is intended is near impossible. So it might as well be random.

ETA: oops, I didn't see you just basically said the same thing^^.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:04 PM   #8
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ETA: oops, I didn't see you just basically said the same thing^^.
Great Minds...
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:05 PM   #9
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If I lived in New York City, I'd arrange for me and my family to be Upstate somewhere-- preferably not downwind from the City.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:22 PM   #10
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Here's an even easier question, I think;

Did Bush find Osama Binladen, like he promised the country that he would? Did he (Quote) 'smoke him out of his hole'?
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:30 PM   #11
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^^ Call me crazy, but without Bin Laden, there would be no Iraq War.

As for Bush keeping us safe: He didn't.
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:44 PM   #12
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Without BinLaden, we'd have still had the Twin Towers still standing tall in Lower Manhattan.

The USS Cole would not have been attacked, and neither would that train bombing take place that occured in Madrid.

The 19 terrorists who had all gotten aboard those 4 planes would have been scrutinized more and stopped fom carrying out their deadly diabolical plan.

How on earth could the gov't let this evil plan slip through the cracks? They KNEW that something was up because they were warned beforehand.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:45 PM   #13
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^^^

I'm no conspiracy theorist , but....
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:51 PM   #14
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Without BinLaden, we'd have still had the Twin Towers still standing tall in Lower Manhattan.

The USS Cole would not have been attacked, and neither would that train bombing take place that occured in Madrid.

The 19 terrorists who had all gotten aboard those 4 planes would have been scrutinized more and stopped fom carrying out their deadly diabolical plan.

How on earth could the gov't let this evil plan slip through the cracks? They KNEW that something was up because they were warned beforehand.
The government doesnt care about the people. They care about making names for themselves and money for their pockets.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:06 AM   #15
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If I lived in New York City, I'd arrange for me and my family to be Upstate somewhere-- preferably not downwind from the City.
Could you guys please do a favor for me.

Ask everyone you know in New York whether they have heard of this story.

And ask them what their reaction is and post it.

I just wonder whether this news if broadcast would cause a panic. I sure hope not.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:48 AM   #16
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What NEWS? That at some unspecified time, maybe around mid-October, a couple of guys MIGHT fly over NYC and blow up a plane that MAY be loaded with nuclear material?

I live in the heart of NYC. But what can anybody do with such unspecific and general information?

As far as discussing it with "everyone" I know: That's a real party stopper.

If folks don't have an escape plan in mind (nearly impossible to put into effect at any time of emergency, and even more so if the Troubles return) then they probably will never do so. And if and when the evil-doers plane spews forth radiation, covering most of Manhattan in killer dust, it will be too late to try and get off the island.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:52 AM   #17
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Nuclear Engineers: How much explosives (weight / size) would the Nuke-'Em Martyrs have to pack onto a little plane in order to blow up a "suitcase" so that it would send out a deadly cloud of radiation in the direction of their choosing?
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:59 AM   #18
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The government doesnt care about the people. They care about making names for themselves and money for their pockets.
It's TRUE.

They NEVER gave a crap about the safety and welfare of the people. For years, it was all about THEM, and even today, it is STILL all about THEM.

We are so safer today than we were before 09-11. Just a pure false sense of security.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:42 AM   #19
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Is that guy hi?

Yeah those orphan children really don't care that their family was blown up by an American missile.

No he wont grow up with hate in his heart against the big AMERIKA.
We are completely safe people. Bush was a good daddy.

/goes back to brave new world
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:35 AM   #20
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9/11 would have been foiled were AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS aboard each of the aircraft involved on that day. Controllers used to have the privilege of riding the jumpseat in the cockpit, a privilege that has been denied to controllers ever since 9/11. Had controllers been aboard any of those aircraft, this would have resulted in a THIRD PERSON available to assist the flight crew and help defend the flight deck. Had there been controllers up front in the cockpit, the terrorists might not have gone ahead with their attack on that day.

On security reasons alone, this is reason enough for the FAA to rethink its policy and allow air traffic controllers access to the flight deck.
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